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Suicide and Voluntary Euthanasia

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Julia, Jun 4, 2006.

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    Brian Christopher Lawler[1] (January 10, 1972 – July 29, 2018)[1] was an American professional wrestler. He was the son of professional wrestler Jerry Lawler[1] and brother of wrestling referee Kevin Christian.[3] He was best known for his career in the World Wrestling Federation (now known as WWE), where he performed as Brian Christopher and Grand Master Sexay. Lawler was a one-time WWF Tag Team Champion as part of Too Cool with Scotty 2 Hotty, and won 44 titles within the United States Wrestling Association.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Christopher

    In early July 2018, Lawler was again arrested and jailed for driving under the influence and for evading police. On the early morning of July 29, 2018, Lawler was found hanging in a cell at the Hardeman County Jail and was observed to be brain dead.[7] His life support was disabled after his father Jerry Lawler had arrived to the hospital to bid his farewell.[8] Lawler was pronounced dead at around 4:40 PM EST at the age of 46.[9]


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    Jerry O'Neil Lawler (born November 29, 1949), better known as Jerry "The King" Lawler, is an American professional wrestler and color commentatorsigned to World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) under the company's legends program.
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    Rick Genest (August 7, 1985 – August 1, 2018) was a Canadian artist, actor, and fashion model. He was also known as Zombie Boy.
    On August 1, 2018, Genest was found dead after a fall from the balcony at his Plateau-Mont-Royal apartment.[21] A police source told CBC it was a suicide.[22] However, his family and friends believe his death to have been an accidental fall.[23]


    Planned to be unveiled in 2019, an 11.5-foot (3.5 m) sculpture of Genest called “Self-Conscious Gene” will be a new permanent fixture at the Science Museum, London, UK. The statue is to be created by British artist Marc Quinn.[20]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Genest

    Lady Gaga mourns suicide of ‘Zombie Boy’ from ‘Born This Way’ video
    https://pagesix.com/2018/08/03/lady-gaga-mourns-suicide-of-zombie-boy-from-born-this-way-video/



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    Amy Meselson, Lawyer Who Defended Young Immigrants, Dies at 46
    Ms. Meselson, who had struggled with depression since she was a teenager, committed suicide on July 22 at her home in Manhattan, her mother, Sarah Meselson, said. She was 46.

    Ms. Meselson had dedicated her career to defending hundreds of vulnerable immigrants from deportation and helping them navigate the gaps between the child welfare and national security bureaucracies. She recruited volunteers from corporate law firms to represent foster children in immigration cases, and she successfully lobbied for a special juvenile section in immigration court.

    Chief Judge Robert Katzmann, of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, who was instrumental in founding the Immigrant Justice Corps, described Ms. Meselson in an email as “a life saver and life giver.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/obituaries/amy-meselson-lawyer-who-defended-young-immigrants-dies-at-46.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/obituaries&action=click&contentCollection=obituaries&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=8&pgtype=sectionfront





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    I was glad to see euthanasia was voted down.
     
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    What gives you the right to tell me when I should have the option to live or die?
     
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    Are you certain that Tink was actually claiming that right?
     
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    I think I used poor words. I should probably clarify that my friend wasn't thinking at all about legal rights as in this kind of discussion, but rather something like

    “ you gotta man [end your life] cause it's so bad [if I would lose this money from catastrophic causes]” (such is his outlook)

    Furthermore , he can't stop worrying about the money he lost, from previously squandering it over everything he wanted. My perception is that this is hurting him deeply and continuously .
     
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    I doubt his money problem was as deep as mine but unless a person can take a lofty point of view it is easy to be completely consumed by it. Some can go under being only a few thousand dollars in debt, before he does that, mine was seven figures and counting - if his debt or losses are over $3 million then that's difficult I know but not enough to jump off a certain popular rock as I once thought.

    Basically I was busted by the 1987 stock market crash and debts and liabilities plus tax and everything else wiped me out. Only way out was to jet out of Australia. As mentioned before I was lucky in 1994 as I bought heavily into Endeavour Resources Limited ( St Barbara Mines ) by walking into a bank and investing every few weeks - as it was done in those days with no checks as long as money was put into an account and few questions asked. The shares headed off from 2c to nearly $3.00 so from heavy debts to paying everything off.

    After all that I'm not bothered much by all the things that appeared important and trying to consume me. Take that lofty point of view and matters seem smaller and that means move away how ever far and just for a period of time, about 7 years in my case, climb back and forget them all and everything.

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    Looks like you've been through some stuff...

    As you say a lofty point of view to have. I'm glad you think like that, as I wasn't sure. My friend Gavin doesn't have a debt but his past (squandering money , has very little) is bothering him excessively, endlessly.

    Some considerations for Gav:
    He still has food and water, and income coming in. Not all in the world have that.

    He could aspire to work hard and save (and maintain life balance), and learn from his mistakes.

    Many of us will experience some kind of setback/regret in the course of a lifetime, either through bad decision making, or being unlucky. Not just him. We have to go on.

    He should forget the past.

    Since he is obsessed with becoming rich, some additional money reflections might be of use (he throws away lots of his money on lottery tickets):

    A Ferrari is nice to have, but you get used to it after a while.

    You don't need wealth to go on holidays once a year.



    The thing is, he can't seem to adopt these positive belief systems, or want to adopt them. He is extremely unhappy, tortured endlessly by the past.
     
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    The cricketer Geoff Boycott's main philosophy in life is to only think and look forward and never once look back. Dispose of those wing mirrors and rear view mirrors. If a person cant do that then the last resort is pretend to do it - life may become part of an act. There are some quite famous actors who in real life are tormented and if a person can act all the time that can be a cure all.
     
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    Teenage YouTube star McSkillet dies in 100mph crash going wrong way down California highway
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...star-mcskillet-dies-100mph-crash-going-wrong/

    Trevor J. Heitmann, known on YouTube as "McSkillet," was identified as the teen driver killed in a wrong-way car crash in San Diego on Thursday. Heitmann, 18, was driving a high-end 2014 McLaren sports car the wrong way on Interstate 805 when he hit a Hyundai SUV Thursday afternoon, reports KSWB. The crash sparked a series of other collisions involving eight cars, two of which ended up in flames. Two other people in the Hyundai — a 43-year-old mother and her 12-year-old daughter — were killed.

    YouTube - McSkillet
    https://www.youtube.com/user/OGMCSKILLET


     
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    Female doctor’s suicide triggers nationwide reflection on verbal abuse

    A female doctor has committed suicide in Deyang, southwest China’s #Sichuan province, after becoming a target of verbal abuse in a suspected sexual assault-related dispute at a swimming pool.

    The doctor, surnamed An, reportedly felt two teenage boys inappropriately touching when she was swimming at a swimming pool on August 20. She demanded an apology but the boys refused and allegedly spat at her and made obscene gestures. Infuriated, An’s husband then pushed one of the boy’s head under the water.

    The brawl did not quiet down after An’s husband apologized to the boy at the police station. The boy’s family allegedly came to An’s hospital, protesting and demanding that the doctor be removed from her post. The surveillance video of An’s husband attacking the boy was also released, which immediately caused one-sided criticism of the female doctor.

    According to An’s family, the doctor has always been mild and wanted no trouble, but nobody expected she would commit suicide on August 25.

    Many netizens began to reflect upon the public opinion on the internet, as well as the irrational behavior of the boy’s family. “You just type her name and there she is, lying dead at the hospital. I hope more people can think independently and not follow the crowd and rush to judgment,” wrote a netizen.

    This is not the first time Chinese netizens’ aggressive criticism has put pressure on others. Some Chinese celebrities have already shut down their comment areas on China’s Twitter-like Weibo so as to avoid extremely insulting comments like “go to hell.”

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    Voluntary euthanasia inquiry announced in Queensland, issue must be confronted Premier says
    Queensland's Premier has ordered an inquiry into end-of-life care, including the issue of voluntary euthanasia, with Queensland the last state in the country to debate the issue.

    Annastacia Palaszczuk has told the Labor Party Conference in Brisbane the issue must be confronted.

    She said the parliamentary health committee would lead the examination, which will also look at aged care and palliative care.

    "Following the vote on the termination of pregnancy bill the parliamentary health committee will begin examining all issues to do with what's known as end-of-life care," she said.

    "I have watched carefully as other jurisdictions have faced this issue head-on.

    The LNP's official policy is against euthanasia.



    Labor want to have a look at Euthanasia
    LNP are against it
    Don't vote for LNP
     
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    On the same day, DB.

    I agree with Matthew.

     
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