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Quantum Securities 'Markets and You'

Discussion in 'Trading/Investing Resources' started by cmg, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. Curious George

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    I was looking at them too. Can you post their actual results? I'd like to compare them with what they sent me.
     
  2. AverageJoe

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    Love your nickname. Maybe change it to "I am a professional review poster from Bangladesh", something in the ABC news today!
     
  3. AverageJoe

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    You have 2 choices, open your wallet and start trading with them or just put down the phone. That way you can compare the results in hindsight.
     
  4. openminded

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    First of all I can’t stand curry, unless it’s a nice Thai Green Curry with chicken. Nothing like someone else making assumptions and telling you what nationality you are. Also dare I point out that most businesses use stock photos for advertising to maintain anonymity of clients so as to ensure they would not be harassed and to keep their financial status private. Just as the commercials you see on TV for banks and other products are mostly actors. Charter boat, What Charter boat?...
    If you actually take the time to look at any of the results you will clearly see that security trades are certainly taken into account and not edited out in all of the examples published in this forum string. Of course there can be second and third trades if they are the strategy you choose and they will all be different so I don’t see your point.

    As for your comments about March and April, it worked for us in March, April and May! But from the wording of your comments I can tell that you were not even trading those months yourself and don't believe you to be a client so I believe this to be hearsay. Also how would you come to be informed that they “exhausted their” account. Who is “they”? What type of account are you talking about? And how do you know the trading strategies of all of the individual clients? All of which would have had very different individual outcomes. It doesn’t sound right especially since all trading accounts are private and only accessible by the owners of said accounts. I feel the probity of this particular thread is tenuous at best and has become far too discourteous for me. FYI, I no longer work for the company. If index trading isn’t your thing go find something you think is better, but do something and get your money working for you! That said, Thank you Aussie Stock Forums for allowing myself and everyone else to have their say.
     
  5. The Falcon

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    So you are an ex employee stooge who didnt disclose your employment status in earlier posts while you still worked there.

    Entirely as expected......openminded lol.
     
  6. Quantum And MaY

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    I just wanted to say thank you to all the “readers” and “posters” for your input and for doing exactly what we ask you to do, “your homework”.
    It is important that prior to making any kind of financial decision that you do your homework first and with that comes threads such as this one.

    Markets and You and Quantum Securities would like to openly invite anybody that have any questions regarding our services to freely contact us and to discuss things on our forum.

    We know and understand the importance of making any kind of decision with all the available information, which is why we invite you to test-drive our products and services prior to making any kind of financial commitment. We gladly offer all potential clients the opportunity to go on a FREE trial of the Markets and You platform, that way you get to see the system working for you on real live trades and you get to make a decision based on proof rather than promise. We don’t think we could be fairer than that.

    In any industry there are going to be your “haters”, your “pessimists” and “skeptics”, and we invite all who are interested to see the system working live for themselves. Granted asking other peoples opinions is always an option, but wouldn’t you rather make your own mind up… and what better way to do this than with all the information; after all, you wouldn’t buy a car unless you had taken it for a test drive first. This way you get a real first hand experience of exactly how the system works. You will get to experience the true potential behind our services and can decide if it’s for you, prior to making any kind of financial commitment. The best part is, if in the highly unlikely event you do decide that our services are not for you after running it through its paces for yourself, then it will have cost you nothing at all and we simply part as friends.

    Granted, our happy clients have paid an investment fee to come on board and take advantage of the fantastic services that we provide. In return for their investment, they are given access to our proprietary members portal, which includes a number of extra services that stand-alone are worth every penny and more.

    Here is a list of just some of the services that we make available to our members in their members area:

    A state of the art alerts service for a multitude of the worlds leading index markets, Real Time Charting Data, Live News Feeds, State of The Art Trading Tools, Trading Calculators, Training Manuals, Knowledge Archives, Weekly Summaries, Economic Calendars, Historical Charts, Mobile Alert Service, Mobile phone or smart phone app (where applicable and available), Unlimited Customer Service, Support and Full Training… and the list goes on.
    Now granted, we do have ulterior motives, we are looking to train and educate our clients to become adept at trading the global markets, and for this reason we provide a number of stepping stone investments. Ultimately, our goal is to have our clients invest in one of our many trading station options that we provide, and our aim is to help you setup and create your own investment portfolios trading on the global markets; which have an abundance of opportunity to trade on and return a profit each and every day. That is why our stepping stone packages are so affordable… we ask our clients to put their faith in the services offered by Markets and You once, that way we never have to ask for it again. In doing this we are able to establish a database of happy clients that we can have a mutually beneficial relationship with. We help you understand and profit from the markets and in return you provide us with repeat and referral business, it simply doesn’t get better than that.

    We have taken the time to respond to each of the concerns raised in this post and we are happy to answer any further questions you might have either via email or by calling us on 1800 10 77 20.

    - Address is a Servcorp virtual office in the Brisbane CBD.
    Yes you are correct this particular address is a virtual office, there are a number of reasons for this, such as the fact Markets and You have analysis staff and customer service staff located all over Australia as well as all over the world. This Virtual office gives us one central location to receive all inbound enquiry’s and distribute them to the appropriate staff. As we are all aware, and I’m sure most of you will agree, in todays day and age, most modern companies conduct the vast majority of their business virtually due to the rapid advancement and convenience of computer technology and the ever evolving communications industry, it is now easier then ever before to do business both here at home, as well as abroad. This makes it easier for us to look after you and our members with the high standards that you deserve and expect from a modern company.

    In addition to this, a quick Google search on Quantum Securities reveals a physical office location, which is verified on Google maps. We welcome any potential client to come and have a face-to-face consultation if you choose to.

    - No AFSL or PDS
    Whilst not getting into to much detail regarding Australian laws that require an AFSL, the product that we offer falls into a category that doesn’t require an AFSL and as such also doesn’t require a PDS. If you have further concerns about this obviously feel free to contact us on 1800 10 77 20 and we will be happy to go into more detail regarding this topic. A PDS or product disclosure statement is simply there to show any hidden fees, methods etc that are used. Everything regarding our memberships is 100% transparent and nothing is hidden in the background, what you see is what you get, the upfront membership is disclosed entirely at the time of registration and you get to test the product prior to becoming a member, so you know what you are getting, how it works and how it makes you money before it has cost you a single cent. Its try before you buy… so we disclose the product and its functionality before you commit to it. I’m sure you can all agree, this is fair and transparent.

    - No information about company staff or principals
    It is not uncommon at all; in fact it is the norm for non-publicly listed companies to not have a list of all employees or list whom the directors of the company are. In saying that there is no reason you can’t do an ASIC lookup if you wish to find out more information if you like, and you can do this for any organization, it is publicly available information. The fact still remains, you are not buying the company or shares in the company, I ‘m sure you have all bought a car that you have taken for a test drive, and I’m almost positive not one single person made an enquiry as to who owned the dealership, who the principals were etc… you made the investment based on the test drive and the performance of the vehicle itself. The fact remains, we invite you to do exactly the same thing with our services, take it for a test drive, make your decision based on the performance of the product and how successful you are with it, not somebody else opinion, and unless you do that, the comments posted are simply hearsay and should have no bearing on your financial decisions. If it works for you, we can take the next step, if not, we simply part as friends and it cost you nothing at all. It is 100% risk free to test drive the system, zero cost and zero commitment.

    - Company registered recently
    Yes, Quantum Securities Group did recently register as a company, the primary reason for this is due to the fact that since Markets and You launched in Australia, they have grown rapidly and have expanded rapidly and have partnered with Quantum Securities to look after the sales and marketing of there services. This enables Markets and You to focus on what they do best which is market analysis and customer service. Quantum Securities is a marketing company and as such simply provide advertising services on behalf of Markets and You which is well established and a globally recognized brand.

    - High risk binary options trading
    Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion, we do not consider our binary options strategy “high risk”. Once a member joins us they are given a customer service rep that trains them and helps them to develop a strategy that is right for them. Many of these strategies go as low as only using 1% of your trading account on an individual trade. If a client wants to invest more aggressively or less aggressively, that is completely up to them. We provide the strategies and alerts that are best suited to the individual, but you are in total control of your own money. Binary options is one of the biggest investment opportunities in the financial markets and it makes complete sense to capitalize on this. The reason this works is due to the compounding investment strategies that ere implemented. We are experts in our field and do all the leg work, it would be high risk if we didn’t know what we were doing, the fact is, we do, and that is why we have so many happy clients.

    - No audited results
    Markets and You are 100% confident in the accuracy of their results. And we do not simply ask potential clients to look at the past performance of our memberships, we invite you to test drive it live, in real time. We are however, in the process of getting our past results independently verified and will be happy to send you copies of these once they are complete. Due to the high number of trades and the various levels of investment packages, to verify these results will take some time, however we are happy to share them with you all once they are completed. Once again, we would also like to bring to your attention that you get to make your descision on real live trades rather than past performance trades. This speaks volumes for itself.

    - Cold calling
    Yes, one of our marketing methods is cold calling, which is highly regulated in Australia. We also use other advertising methods, such as online marketing and adverting, traditional print marketing, and the list goes on. in fact, like most modern companies, we explore as many mediums of advertising as we can. Our mainstay of business requires a certain amount of exposure and we pride ourselves in being able to provide one-on-one marketing to you. This enables you, the end user, to get all your questions answered in person. This means when the time comes for you to make a decision as to weather or not the opportunity is right for you, you have all the information you need and can make an informed decision based on all the information. This makes sense I’m sure you will agree.


    I dug a little further and found one of their job ads seeking professional telemarketers They are promising telemarketers $150K a year plus bonuses, so a of whatever money you hand over to Quantum Securities ends up in the hands of the telemarketers who sold you on their "investment packages". good chunk

    As it was mentioned earlier, Quantum Securities is a marketing company, and as such market a number of different products and services, we require staff to conduct and fill a number of different rolls. No matter what you invest in and how you do it, there are going to be people that require disbursements for their efforts in providing you with the goods or services. The same would stand if you were buying milk, the famer gets paid, the transportation company, the company that sells the labels, the packaging material, the retail outlet etc. This is simply the nature of the world as it is. In saying that, you still get your quality membership at an affordable rate that allows you to profit from its use. The fact is, due to the effective nature of the marketing that we conduct, we are able to sell to more people for less and because the vast majority of our business actually comes from repeat and referral business, any expense incurred in advertising is nullified. So to answer this, Yes, this is correct, our staff are paid well, marketing, be it over the telephone, online, in print, or in any other medium can be a very tough, repetitive job, and as such we give our staff the opportunity to make a decent wage for this role and the many other rolls they are required to fill. We invest a lot of time and money in their training to ensure that you get the best service possible, and as such we need to ensure their longevity in filling the roll and providing the best possible service to you. Staffs are the lifeblood of any company and are in fact, the face of the company. We feel, and I’m sure that you will agree, that we would rather have highly skilled, well-qualified professionals represent us and our services, and as such we are required to pay for those services.

    As for the Binary.com affiliate system, yes, we are an affiliate of Binary.com, you too can go become one and refer people yourself. We have a very good relationship with Binary.com and need to have one. As I’m sure you are aware, if you have come this far, is the fact that we have a mobile app that does all the work for you when it comes to profiting from binary options trading. Our clients that use this mobile app require that their Binary.com account communicate with the mobile app in order for it to function for the purpose it was designed for. Due to the relationship we have with Binary.com, our clients get preferential treatment when it comes to their services as we are the number one recommended service by binary.com and the only organisation that has an app of this kind. This requires Binary.com to be able to identify our clients if the need arises. There are other reasons that we use this method, it allows us to track success rates of our clients as well as track the success rates of our trainers and customer service team. So it makes sense and it enables our smart phone app to fully integrate with Binary.com’s API and makes it easier for you to trade than ever before.

    Even the person that they use in the testimonial is fake.
    This is a fairly common practice to protect the identity of our clients, with the technology available these days it is quite easy to find a persons facebook page or twitter profile just with an image and a name, and we do not want to be responsible for anyone harassing our clients. it is what is called a placeholder image, you are more thank wlcome to view any of the video testimoniuals that we have from our live inhouse presentation events.

    - The Tax Issues,

    Yes, there are circumstances in which you would have to pay tax on this product, but for a vast majority of Australians, under Australian law the money generated from this method of trading is classed as a windfall. We always advise our clients to contact a tax professional regarding this though to verify if they fall into this category.

    Take a look for yourself at a recording of a real money account placing live trades, then take it for a test drive and see the results for yourself…
    Here is a video that show a real live recording of actual money being made:

    https://youtu.be/300EyxZKmWg

    You are also more than welcome to look at some results here:
    View attachment Starter Pack - Jan to June.xlsx

    We invite you to call us, speak to us, vioce you concerns, and we also ask you to please consider others when voicing opinions as opinions are just that, and they do tend to differ, please dont make assumptions and group us in a catagory without proof or evidence, we are a highly respected comapny and offer a good service, try it, and see for yourself.
     
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  7. skyQuake

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    The age old question:

    If you can 10x your money in 6 months, why bother sharing? Jeeze you guys are nice.

    Oh and it seems you 'accidentally' left out all those loser Aus index trades in Feb.
    febresults.jpg
     
  8. Porper

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    I am sure this was just an oversight. 10x your money...where do I sign up. I am sure places are limited so be quick ;)
     
  9. skyQuake

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    Tell you what, if you send me a cheque for $19,999
    I'll cancel my membership and you can have my spot!

    You'll make it back with $2k in just 6 months anyway
     
  10. McLovin

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    I really "like" the way you "write".
     
  11. stockGURU

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    How much does your Starter Investment Pack, Intermediate Investment Pack, Premium Investment Pack, Elite Investment Pack and Elite Plus Investment Pack cost?

    Can you also outline the cost of any other services you provide?
     
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    Thanks. I have just run to the post box and posted the cheque...honest. Like Quantum securities I am not regulated, have a virtual office and have 100% positive feed back. However that's ok...see above post...easily explained. Please rush me my copy of "make 10x your initial capital in 1 easy step". Thanks. Yuva binconned.
     
  13. Dreman

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    I am with them. I bought the starter pack which gives you 3 European markets to trade in. After being with them for 4 months, it is not as fantastic as they say it is. I started with $800 in my trading account and now have just shy of $1600. That's in 4 months. A lot of the time it seems like hit and miss. They send you a text telling you what to do on the first trade. If that fails, they double up on the second and if that fails also, the double up again. So in the end you are wagering a lot of money just to chase a small profit. To be honest, if I could I would just ask for my money back.
     
  14. Jmash

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    They are a ex Gold Coast Horse racing company,the leads they use still have the PDF Group printed on them, not that they will admit that.

    The people that run this company must be generating huge returns based on the profits they show yet they choose to work, the so called salesmen must use the same system yet they also choose to work, talk about generous people.

    And all the so called analysts they use around Australia and the world must be invisible people because there is no record of them

    You buy into this and you really should just donate your hard earned to charity, at least that way it's not going into the pokie machines at the southport rsl.
     
  15. jummy777

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    Hi dreman,
    I am contemplating going ahead with a package. Hard to imagine after reading these posts, particularly yours given that you are actually doing it. It's a while ago but I talked them into extending the trial period and did really well. I was wondering how you are going? I am having trouble departing with the money. Most legitimate models would charge monthly fees for the info like a newsletter i.e. the $8900 divided by 36 months and you can pull out when you want.
    Have your numbers got better? You have doubled your money!! Did you follow exactly what they suggested or use your own intuition? I hope you don't mind me asking.
     
  16. Dreman

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    Hi Jummy,

    NO! In fact it got worse. It has now dropped to $900 thanks to the two bad trades they placed on Friday. :mad:

    I follow exactly what they sent via text its just gone to sh*t. I want to get the ACCC involved as I believe that I was lied to. They boast an accuracy of 92%. HAH! Nowhere near that. What I lost in one trade takes a week to build back and thats if they dont miss again. Honestly wouldnt touch them with a 10 ft pole....
     
  17. openminded

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    Seriously Jummy you need to talk to customer service and learn how to trade within your budget then you won't have that problem. It works and has me paying off my credit card debt. I'm pretty happy about that .
     
  18. Jmash

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    can customer service give me advice on different trading strategies?
     
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    i hope you did in fact get the ACCC involved
     
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