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Mate, ATH is as sure as eggs. The only question is by how much ;)

I thought it might have taken a few more months.

I don't think anyone expected Kiev to be directly attacked and it would just be a slow ingress from the east south east. I think Putin has miscalculated and there's a couple of significant Nordic States who will now join NATO. Geesh, even Ireland might join now. Watch out for Poland to become extremely militarised.

The risk to our region is if NATO/EU allows this to occur without more significant military resistance. Xi, has his playbook.
 

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I thought it might have taken a few more months.

I don't think anyone expected Kiev to be directly attacked and it would just be a slow ingress from the east south east. I think Putin has miscalculated and there's a couple of significant Nordic States who will now join NATO. Geesh, even Ireland might join now. Watch out for Poland to become extremely militarised.

The risk to our region is if NATO/EU allows this to occur without more significant military resistance. Xi, has his playbook.
Brushing up on my Mandarin as we speak :p
 
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I thought it might have taken a few more months.

I don't think anyone expected Kiev to be directly attacked and it would just be a slow ingress from the east south east. I think Putin has miscalculated and there's a couple of significant Nordic States who will now join NATO. Geesh, even Ireland might join now. Watch out for Poland to become extremely militarised.

The risk to our region is if NATO/EU allows this to occur without more significant military resistance. Xi, has his playbook.
I might be wrong but i do not imagine Russian troops in Kiev..what for?, probability just strategic disabling of command centers..or even Ukrainian gov propaganda.
If we see Russian tanks in Kiev,i will have been wrong .all that good for my PMGold portfolio,less for the people..and predictable use of this event to carry on what started with covid.a great pretext to enslave us another level..due to war/economic sanctions etc
 

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I might be wrong but i do not imagine Russian troops in Kiev..what for?, probability just strategic disabling of command centers..or even Ukrainian gov propaganda.
If we see Russian tanks in Kiev,i will have been wrong .all that good for my PMGold portfolio,less for the people..and predictable use of this event to carry on what started with covid.a great pretext to enslave us another level..due to war/economic sanctions etc

The future borders will ultimately be set by the Russian speaking/ethnic Slav borders v Ukraine, IMO.
 
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The future borders will ultimately be set by the Russian speaking/ethnic Slav borders v Ukraine, IMO.
Agree, so the two separatists region of now plus a little bit which are/have been russians well before WWI..aka are Russian.
And Kiev is not a long term annexion target.
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Agree, so the two separatists region of now plus a little bit which are/have been russians well before WWI..aka are Russian.
And Kiev is not a long term annexion target.
Back to pmgold

It's in the maps.

But, it's still good for gold.

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PMGOLD broken up well outside the 2 year channel, as you'd expect with gold's run I suppose. It's been a pretty stead safe haven the past few months.

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The future borders will ultimately be set by the Russian speaking/ethnic Slav borders v Ukraine, IMO.
Ukranians are Slavs, to a large extent
Agree, so the two separatists region of now plus a little bit which are/have been russians well before WWI..aka are Russian.
And Kiev is not a long term annexion target.
its Kyiv
 

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Do I say I am travelling to Munich, or München? Cologne, or Cöln? Italy or Italia? Moscow or Moskva (or Москва)? Hungary or Magyarország?

In English it has always been Kiev, otherwise why aren't we saying Ukrayina (or Україна)?

Stupid tokenism.

By the way just to keep things on topic, buy PMЗолото (NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE )
 

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Do I say I am travelling to Munich, or München? Cologne, or Cöln? Italy or Italia? Moscow or Moskva (or Москва)? Hungary or Magyarország?

In English it has always been Kiev, otherwise why aren't we saying Ukrayina (or Україна)?

Stupid tokenism.
yawn.

as I posted in #447, War Threat in Ukraine,
Media people have taught us as they broadcast from the besieged capital of Ukraine, after the “k” it’s nothing but a long “e” before you reach the “v”.
At least that’s how they’ll tell you to pronounce it in Ukraine. Because in Vladimir Putin’s homeland, they call it “Kiev”, a transliteration from the Russian. So if you’re pro-Russia, it’s Kiev; if you’re backing Ukraine, it’s Kyiv.

now, you can 'back' whomever you like, but I think Kyiv is the go, unless Old Slavonic ⰳⰾⰰⰳⱁⰾⰹⱌⰰ is where the adaption stopped.
 

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Ukranians are Slavs, to a large extent

I thought I had done enough research to make that comment, but, no. I‘ve researched this a little more today as I thought the western part of Ukraine were not Slavs, but ‘ethnic Ukrainian’ whatever that meant, but it seems they are ‘Eastern Slavs’. Eastern Europe is a Molotov Cocktail of different ethnicities and religions fought over for 1000s of years. Are Eastern Slavs also Russians? I think language might be the division in this case.
 

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yawn.

as I posted in #447, War Threat in Ukraine,



now, you can 'back' whomever you like, but I think Kyiv is the go, unless Old Slavonic ⰳⰾⰰⰳⱁⰾⰹⱌⰰ is where the adaption stopped.
How I spell Kiev has got nothing to do with who I support. In fact I don't believe I have enough facts to make that sort of value judgement.
 
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I thought I had done enough research to make that comment, but, no. I‘ve researched this a little more today as I thought the western part of Ukraine were not Slavs, but ‘ethnic Ukrainian’ whatever that meant, but it seems they are ‘Eastern Slavs’. Eastern Europe is a Molotov Cocktail of different ethnicities and religions fought over for 1000s of years. Are Eastern Slavs also Russians? I think language might be the division in this case.

Ukrainians are Eastern slavs so are Russians and Belrussians, Polish Czech and slovak are Western slavs, the rest are southern Bulgaria former Yugoslavia

Unless you are a Gypsie or Jew which have minorities in Slav countries you are a Slav, not talking about some small cases of somebody that had Italian, German etc parents.
Also there is Muslim slavs, they are slavs but have Muslim faith not the same as Jews who are ethnically Jewish in slavic countries. Ofcourse there would be some but mainly not

As the folk tale that gets told to children goes, there were 3 brothers one stayed, one went west and one went east. Poland, Czechoslovakia and Russia.
In a simplified way all slavs are thought to come from the same people and the tribes went east west and south in Europe, so Ukrainians are Ukranians, Russians are Russians, Serbs are Serbs but all from the Slavic language family and dna have similar markers
 
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