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Mother forced to drown baby in North Korean prison

A mother was forced to drown her own baby in a North Korea prison camp, a former prisoner has told a UN inquiry.

Jee Heon-a, 34, told the inquiry how she watched on as a guard forced a mother to kill the infant or suffer the consequences, ABC reports.

"A security guard came in and told the mother to turn the baby upside down into a bowl of water," she said.

"The mother begged the guard to spare her, but he kept beating her. So the mother, her hands shaking, put the baby face down in the water.

"The crying stopped and a bubble rose up as it died."

Ms Jee's testimony was just one of several harrowing accounts that detail the daily public executions and torture inside North Korea's prisons.

Shin Dong-hyuk, who was born in a prison called Camp 14, said he was forced to watch as his mother and brother were killed, punishment for dropping a sewing machine.

He said he had turned then in for his own survival.

"Because the North Korean people cannot stand up with guns like Libya and Syria … I personally think this is the first and last hope left," he said of the inquiry.

According to independent estimates, up to 200,000 people are detained in North Korean camps.

The North, under third-generation Kim family rule, has denied abuse of human rights and refused access to the Commission's investigators.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/20...ced-to-drown-baby-in-north-korean-prison-camp
 

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From the above quote:
Shin Dong-hyuk, who was born in a prison called Camp 14, said he was forced to watch as his mother and brother were killed, punishment for dropping a sewing machine.

He said he had turned then in for his own survival.
The same report was on Radio National today re the punishment for dropping a sewing machine.
The ABC's reporting of it was that Shin Dong-hyuk's punishment was to have one of his fingers amputated.
He is reported to have been grateful that it wasn't a larger limb.

Who knows how accurate any of these stories are?
 
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Jang's execution bodes ill for China

THE execution of Jang Song Thaek, the No. 2 man in North Korea, took Beijing by surprise and will adversely affect bilateral relations.

Beijing's displeasure is expressed through the publication of a detailed account of Jang's brutal execution in Wen Wei Po, its official mouthpiece, in Hong Kong, on Dec 12.

According to the report, unlike previous executions of political prisoners which were carried out by firing squads with machine guns, Jang was stripped naked and thrown into a cage, along with his five closest aides. Then 120 hounds, starved for three days, were allowed to prey on them until they were completely eaten up. This is called "quan jue", or execution by dogs.

The report said the entire process lasted for an hour, with Mr Kim Jong Un, the supreme leader in North Korea, supervising it along with 300 senior officials.


The horrifying report vividly depicted the brutality of the young North Korean leader. The fact that it appeared in a Beijing- controlled newspaper showed that China no longer cares about its relations with the Kim regime.
http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/asia-report/china/story/jangs-execution-bodes-ill-china-20131224
 
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We can only hope China is shamed enough to stop propping up the North Korean Leadership.

If they stopped supplying fuel oil and hard currency the regime would like topple within months.

For too long the Chinese have seen NK as a way to keep Asia busy on the issue and as a buffer from democracy on their borders. As the USA has found over and over again, making deals with teh devil tends to burn you down the track.

A few billion $ offered to the vile leadership in NK is probably all it would take to get them to leave the country and let the country start to heal.
 
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For too long the Chinese have seen NK as a way to keep Asia busy on the issue and as a buffer from democracy on their borders. As the USA has found over and over again, making deals with teh devil tends to burn you down the track.
I often think that is how China operates. Keep potential hotspots on the boil to keep the West and its allies occupied. So the support regimes like Zimbabwe, Syria, North Korea and several crackpot dictators in Africa.
 
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Unbelievably brave, this girl. I hope they make a wrong step so that the US can end the regime....somehow.

 

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Successful ICBM test reported yesterday. Northern parts of Australia now within range of NK ICBM.

Seriously concerning. G20 having an emergency meeting, and odds must be shortening on some kind some kind of geopolitical event, offensive or defensive in the future.
 

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Successful ICBM test reported yesterday. Northern parts of Australia now within range of NK ICBM.

Seriously concerning. G20 having an emergency meeting, and odds must be shortening on some kind some kind of geopolitical event, offensive or defensive in the future.
The longer they wait the worse its going to get.
Waiting, or doing something, will both be unpalatable. Unless they take out all the cabinet in one hit. China doesn't seem to care.
 
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The longer they wait the worse its going to get.
Waiting, or doing something, will both be unpalatable. Unless they take out all the cabinet in one hit. China doesn't seem to care.
Probably the best way is cyber warfare on NK's missile factories and nuclear facilities like the US did with Iran.

If missiles blow up by themselves it's less trouble than a direct attack, and China would find it harder to protest if it couldn't even prove cyber sabotage.
 

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North Korea missile 'eight out of 10 provocative': Rudd
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The former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says North Korea's missile test is provocative and the development a dangerous new phase. Mr Rudd also expressed concerns about the possibility of a trade war between China and the US, saying it would be 'bad for the global economy, bad for Australia'. The former Labor leader is now the president of the Asia Society Policy Institute.

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The former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says North Korea's missile test is provocative and the development a dangerous new phase.

Mr Rudd also expressed concerns about the possibility of a trade war between China and the US, saying it would be 'bad for the global economy, bad for Australia'.

The former Labor leader is now the president of the Asia Society Policy Institute.
 
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China is clearly concerned about the true state of it's economy and is desperately trying to provoke the US using North Korea. North Korea is China!
The Chinese Communist Party needs to distract its people from accusing it of ruining the environment and running it's fake economy into an untenable position. So it creates and external enemy without wanting to be the target or a global response.
China would love a war in North Korea that it could underhandedly support.

The Chinese Communist Party uses North Korea which as 'a pretend' regime, causing the problems. In reality North Korea is TOTALLY directed out of China.
China is also using the tests to make it look like North Korea is developing these capabilities. China then feels it will not be accused of supplying the weapons and technology. Of course China has already supplied more sophisticated weapons all over North Korea. No country can make such rapid progress in the development of these technologies without it being given to them. It's China!
It will be a tough period for the world but the world needs to bite the bullet and end the Chinese Communist Party!
 
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That missile landed over half way towards Japan.

Why didn't the US shoot it down? I'm assuming it has that capability.

China quite happy to do nothing, which is very concerning.
 
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Why didn't the US shoot it down?
Because it's not the movies. Hitting an object travelling at 24,000km/h is no easy feat, and the existing ICBM defence the US has has no ability to target an object that far from Alaska.
 
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That missile landed over half way towards Japan.

Why didn't the US shoot it down? I'm assuming it has that capability.

China quite happy to do nothing, which is very concerning.
No, they do not have that capability. They have a couple of systems that claim to be able to, but not really. That and when an enemy fire those rockets and missiles, they won't just be sending over one or two, it'll be a barrage. So we obviously have to buy more and more of those systems then? haha

Remember that Pivot to Asia? The US is pivoting. You can't do that openly against China... you need a punching bag, a local bad actor. In the Phillipines it's ISIS, in North West Asia it's lil'Kim.

None of those US missiles and nukes point to North Korea. They're aimed at Beijing and other parts of Russia. Everyone kinda know this except our politicians who reckon North Korea want to nuke Darwin for some reason.

We do know that between Pyongyang and Australia, there's Seoul, a few dozen US military bases in South Korea and Japan, there's Guam, Okinawa etc. etc. Strike this land down under and they might only take out Townsville or something. Not enough bang for that buck I'd say.

That and what the heck have Australia ever done to North Korea? I mean we probably follow the yanks under Macarthur, but that's probably to set up some canteen and clean out the toilet or something. I'm sure we didn't bust their dams or flatten their cities like others, ahem, did.

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In other news, China has recently sent its offshore oil platform into disputed waters with VN. The comrades in Hanoi shut down the news media or any protest against that.

Laos and Cambodia pretty much belong to China already. Half of VN's comrades are already in its camp, those that want to play patriotism find themselves serious sick and die off all of a sudden.

Soon enough the Yank will step back into VN. This time fighting ISIS or Al Qaeda.. .you know how far reaching those Muslims get.

And we here in Australia thought it's a brilliant strategic move to put all our defensive eggs in that one Great Protector. It work wonders during WW2 so I guess why wouldn't it work this time round. :xyxthumbs

Good things we got the French to build our submarines, the Chinese to build our trains and cars... all while we send our unemployed youth to work for free as we pay employers to take on that burden.

Dam it, we've turned into a Middle Eastern colony.
 

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And we here in Australia thought it's a brilliant strategic move to put all our defensive eggs in that one Great Protector. It work wonders during WW2 so I guess why wouldn't it work this time round. :xyxthumbs

Good things we got the French to build our submarines, the Chinese to build our trains and cars... all while we send our unemployed youth to work for free as we pay employers to take on that burden.

Dam it, we've turned into a Middle Eastern colony.
Trains are from India mismade to specification, the Anglosphere and its Five Eyes is only defense we can count on and the only deterrent to aggressors North of us
 
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Trains are from India mismade to specification, the Anglosphere and its Five Eyes is only defense we can count on and the only deterrent to aggressors North of us
Whatever happened to self-reliance?

Sure, make allies, be a vassal, join other people's wars, let them have a couple of bases, get their permission to rent out our base then giggle about it when they aren't happy we didn't seek permission first... but come on, train the kids for that innovation boom, get decent and stable work to those who aren't lucky enough to be financial salesman or management consultants or property tycoons.
 

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