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After the idea was suggested to me by an ASF member, I have decided to create a dedicated ETF forum that will contain the threads of all ASX-listed ETFs.

These threads have previously been buried by the vast amount of other ASX-listed securities, so I thought it was a good idea to put them all in the one forum for easy access and organisation.

Please note that there are many more general threads about ETFs that can be found in a number of other forums. For the moment, I have decided to leave them where they are as I am not convinced that they should also be located in the new forum.

I hope that this new forum will encourage more discussion of ASX-listed ETFs and that many will find it useful to have all these threads located in the one place.
 

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Excellent @Joe Blow, although perhaps it might have been easier to have it divided up into the alphabet like stocks. I reckon these are going to take off like crazy. With the help of Vanguard and Blackrock, most of our good stocks have been shorted into oblivion so we need to be able to trade the rest of the world...and what better way than a nice Beta or VanEck ETF. Just as an aside, I think both Vanguard and Blackrock are unethical with the way they short our stocks unto near death, so Vanguard and Ishares are not my choice of ETF product, but that is just an ethical decision, not meant to sway others! :)

It isn't easy keeping up with the newbies but the ASX has a regular update of newly listed ETPs which contain the ETFs here...


Just as an aside, I think it is great the mug punters are dumping Vanguard like it is a tower about to collapse! Note the Prat Meter aka
Positive Volume Index, nothing positive here. I may not be the only one who doesn't want to touch Vanguard with a pair of tongues! :)

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Excellent @Joe Blow, although perhaps it might have been easier to have it divided up into the alphabet like stocks. I reckon these are going to take off like crazy. With the help of Vanguard and Blackrock, most of our good stocks have been shorted into oblivion so we need to be able to trade the rest of the world...and what better way than a nice Beta or VanEck ETF. Just as an aside, I think both Vanguard and Blackrock are unethical with the way they short our stocks unto near death, so Vanguard and Ishares are not my choice of ETF product, but that is just an ethical decision, not meant to sway others! :)

It isn't easy keeping up with the newbies but the ASX has a regular update of newly listed ETPs which contain the ETFs here...


Just as an aside, I think it is great the mug punters are dumping Vanguard like it is a tower about to collapse! Note the Prat Meter aka
Positive Volume Index, nothing positive here. I may not be the only one who doesn't want to touch Vanguard with a pair of tongues! :)

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i would not consider myself as a 'mug punter ' but am looking to liquidate my positions in VAS , VHY , and IHD ( all the Blackrock and Vanguard ETFs i hold ) ( but not a desperate escape , mind you ) mostly because they use my investment leverage against me , when forcing changes in corporate decisions/agendas

and , their shorting ( and share-lending ) activities did not help soften my decision

since those 3 ETFs have some equivalents ( but NOT identical matches ) some other smaller funds are likely to get that part of my 'insurance investing ' . i will probably wait for a significant dip before replacing the exited ETFs

primary target for 'replacement duty ' looks to be MVW , when the dip is large enough , but the mandate quirks make it look interesting to me , i notice the ASX has some other ETFs which embrace the equal-weighted stratagem , but they are not yet guaranteed to be preferred over other biases

i will also revisit the logic i employed to buy VAS ( as a blanket index coverage ) that MIGHT be inappropriate in the coming 5 years or so , i might chose to target small indexes on the ASX ( i already hold QFN and MVB , and have held SLF in the past )

.. all that being said VHY did well PROVIDED you participated in the DRP ( much better than DRPed VAS over the same period )
 

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i would not consider myself as a 'mug punter ' but am looking to liquidate my positions in VAS , VHY , and IHD ( all the Blackrock and Vanguard ETFs i hold ) ( but not a desperate escape , mind you ) mostly because they use my investment leverage against me , when forcing changes in corporate decisions/agendas

and , their shorting ( and share-lending ) activities did not help soften my decision

since those 3 ETFs have some equivalents ( but NOT identical matches ) some other smaller funds are likely to get that part of my 'insurance investing ' . i will probably wait for a significant dip before replacing the exited ETFs

Goodman! (?)

Wonderful to hear!

Mug punter or prat meter is simply my term for the PVI. Look up the definition it is quite insulting. I fully relate to the Prat Meter.
 
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haunted the race tracks ( various types ) for a few decades , i found that stereo-type ( 'mug-punter ' ) a convenient disguise , for my low investment outlay , high-risk/high-return strategy

unlike some high-profile peers who would cause the market to move before even deploying half the desired funds

appearing to be financially unsuccessful ( even when having a big day ) had it's benefits as well , some lurking criminals get jealous

BTW the folks that use such an insult ( on the race-tracks) often don't realize when they have been gazumped

maybe that is why i was a Joan Jett fan ( Bad Reputation reference )

BUT extensive research on each ETF can yield nice rewards for the effort
 

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BUT extensive research on each ETF can yield nice rewards for the effort

Nah...I just chart them, very little effort, avoiding the Vanguards and Ishares.

Just as an idle thought through a mind addled with a couple of glasses of bubbles, I am wondering when the major crash comes in nine to twelve months (BHP three peaks rounded house ref) if it is going to be caused by the failure of the likes of Vanguard or Blackrock coming unstuck. Just an idle thought of no consequence.
 
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well BHP will have a down when it sheds the Petroleum arm , i read somewhere it is a sizable part of their income , so that should give you a hint of the timing for the start of the slide add in a smaller BHP will oblige ETFs to sell some to rebalance to imitate 'market-weight ' i doubt a 'Greener' BHP will still be 'Woke' enough to be an ESG suitable stock , so am NOT betting on any 'uplift ' from there
 

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Just an update on this. I've now moved all the threads I can find on ETFs into another new forum by the name of ETF Chat. So all discussion about ETFs should go in here moving forward and all discussion of listed ETFs should continue in the re-titled ETFs A-Z forum.
 
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