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Bullet trains can now go 500km/h (actual average being 300km/h), why hasn't anyone built a train that goes the distance?

Some pros:
> No check in's
> People will be traveling from Sydney <> Brisbane/Gold Coast for a long time to come
> Oil will eventually run out (and go sky high in price)
> Stops could be in the middle of the cities
> Not weather dependent
> Cheaper maintenance
> It is a tried and tested technology that is in use in Japan, France, China, Germany etc etc
> Lower energy consumption
> No need to take a 250 tonne hunk of poorly maintained, eventually failing aluminum up to 40,000 feet
> Commodity prices are coming down, so its a great time to buy 730km of steel
> Drivers don't need to be paid exhorbant wages, and they don't need to be trained for years before they can take the controls
> You would have the age old, greatly sought after "Toll Road" business
 
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The bullet train would be a great asset for Australia. Just build it and forget the cost because the benefits will far outweigh the negatives.
 

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The bullet train would be a great asset for Australia. Just build it and forget the cost because the benefits will far outweigh the negatives.
Unfortunately, don't Qantas have a veto over anything like this in eastern states?

It would be great to have linked high speed rail between Melbourne - Sydney - Brisbane.

Would be a great nation building project, that should have been done a long time ago.
 
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Unfortunately, don't Qantas have a veto over anything like this in eastern states?
Well now would be a good time to challenge that veto in public, who likes Qantas anymore, what with their, expensive service, crashing/blowing up planes and pissing off all their engineers.
 
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Great idea now if only the pollies had some vision and could think about something else other than getting back in to the trough.
Guess it will never happen.
 
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Distance my friends is a killer. The bullet train cost less than the track it is supposed to run on. Which is really expensive to build and maintain.

Great idea nevertheless and should be explored further, at least between nearby cities like Ballarat,Melbourne,Geelong.
 
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great idea. would be of better use than this new NDN broadband network.

i wonder what it would cost?
 

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Great idea ! Infrastructure projects will be a part of this coming great Recession .... would employ thousands !
 
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qantas could asked to come on board with a 25% stake in the project.
 
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Actually that would be a great idea - the sooner you get out of Brisbane the better!!!
 
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It's an entirely sensible, rational thing to build that would benefit Australia in the long term despite the short term costs.

It's in the same category as anything that moves us away from oil - good in the long term but it will face massive resistance from everyone from conservationists to economists and thus won't get any real support until the need is blatantly obvious. And then it will cost many times as much to build and we won't have the money.
 
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Is the population density along the eastern seaboard (current or projected) sufficient for such a project to be economically worthwhile ?
 
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Is the population density along the eastern seaboard (current or projected) sufficient for such a project to be economically worthwhile ?
And there's the rub; to make it economically viable it would need to make several stops along the way (Albury, Gold Coast, Canberra, maybe Newcastle and/or Woollongong) which would probably make it too slow.

m.
 

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Melbourne <> Sydney makes more sense than Sydney <> Brisbane, logistically
and financially easier to do to....4 stops Goulburn-Canberra-Albury-Seymour.

I remember reading somewhere that Mel - Syd was one of the top ten busiest
air routes in the world...ah Wiki says its Number 4 with Syd - Bris at Number 11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_busiest_passenger_air_routes
 

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Latest: a sexy looking design, but at 400 km/hr you wouldn't catch me lounging around un-seatbelted like in the picture.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/austr...oming-down-under/story-e6frfq89-1226072336508
From Sydney to Melbourne in three hours on 400km/h Australian High Speed Vehicle
By Kate Schneider
From: news.com.au
June 10, 2011

"...TRAVELLERS may soon be speeding between Australian landmarks at up to 400km/h if a company's bullet train design takes off.
Designer Hassall has released concept images for a high-speed Australian train called the Australian High Speed Vehicle (A-HSV).........The design was inspired by the 1960s HK Monaro car, well-known for its speed.
'Inspired by the brut lines of the iconic Australian speed machine the 1960s HK Monaro, Hassell has designed the A-HSV to be responsive to the Australian context...'”
 

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Here is the picture from the article referenced in post above. Very groovy way to travel, not a seatbelt or a hand rail in sight, but all the same.

400 km/hr - it'll frighten the living suitcase out of the cows. Like it's not enough they have to deal with UFOs and aliens trying to turn them inside-out.
 

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China's high speed trains are taking passengers off the planes as there is no check in's travel to and from air ports and quicker to reach the destinations, trouble is the Fed will be involved and have to make it run passed Adelaide to keep some independent happy.
Have numerous studies and wait until the polls show it's a winner.
 
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:banghead:

Sorry, just to clarify will that train be slower or faster than the NBN?

You know as well as me, if its makes sense then the government wont do it.
 
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Latest: a sexy looking design, but at 400 km/hr you wouldn't catch me lounging around un-seatbelted like in the picture.
At 400km/r even a racing harness wouldn't make a difference ;)
 

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