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Melbourne-Sydney-Brisbane Bullet train

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Naked shorts, Nov 21, 2008.

  1. Naked shorts

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    Bullet trains can now go 500km/h (actual average being 300km/h), why hasn't anyone built a train that goes the distance?

    Some pros:
    > No check in's
    > People will be traveling from Sydney <> Brisbane/Gold Coast for a long time to come
    > Oil will eventually run out (and go sky high in price)
    > Stops could be in the middle of the cities
    > Not weather dependent
    > Cheaper maintenance
    > It is a tried and tested technology that is in use in Japan, France, China, Germany etc etc
    > Lower energy consumption
    > No need to take a 250 tonne hunk of poorly maintained, eventually failing aluminum up to 40,000 feet
    > Commodity prices are coming down, so its a great time to buy 730km of steel
    > Drivers don't need to be paid exhorbant wages, and they don't need to be trained for years before they can take the controls
    > You would have the age old, greatly sought after "Toll Road" business
     
  2. It's Snake Pliskin

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    The bullet train would be a great asset for Australia. Just build it and forget the cost because the benefits will far outweigh the negatives.
     
  3. chops_a_must

    chops_a_must Printing My Own Money

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Unfortunately, don't Qantas have a veto over anything like this in eastern states?

    It would be great to have linked high speed rail between Melbourne - Sydney - Brisbane.

    Would be a great nation building project, that should have been done a long time ago.
     
  4. Naked shorts

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Well now would be a good time to challenge that veto in public, who likes Qantas anymore, what with their, expensive service, crashing/blowing up planes and pissing off all their engineers.
     
  5. Lantern

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Great idea now if only the pollies had some vision and could think about something else other than getting back in to the trough.
    Guess it will never happen.
     
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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Distance my friends is a killer. The bullet train cost less than the track it is supposed to run on. Which is really expensive to build and maintain.

    Great idea nevertheless and should be explored further, at least between nearby cities like Ballarat,Melbourne,Geelong.
     
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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    great idea. would be of better use than this new NDN broadband network.

    i wonder what it would cost?
     
  8. numbercruncher

    numbercruncher Beware of Dropbears

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Great idea ! Infrastructure projects will be a part of this coming great Recession .... would employ thousands !
     
  9. hotbmw

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    qantas could asked to come on board with a 25% stake in the project.
     
  10. James_Grenfell

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Actually that would be a great idea - the sooner you get out of Brisbane the better!!!
     
  11. Smurf1976

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    It's an entirely sensible, rational thing to build that would benefit Australia in the long term despite the short term costs.

    It's in the same category as anything that moves us away from oil - good in the long term but it will face massive resistance from everyone from conservationists to economists and thus won't get any real support until the need is blatantly obvious. And then it will cost many times as much to build and we won't have the money.
     
  12. Naked shorts

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    That would be after they finish spewing and realizing its their only choice
     
  13. drsmith

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Is the population density along the eastern seaboard (current or projected) sufficient for such a project to be economically worthwhile ?
     
  14. marklar

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    And there's the rub; to make it economically viable it would need to make several stops along the way (Albury, Gold Coast, Canberra, maybe Newcastle and/or Woollongong) which would probably make it too slow.

    m.
     
  15. So_Cynical

    So_Cynical The Contrarian Averager

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Melbourne <> Sydney makes more sense than Sydney <> Brisbane, logistically
    and financially easier to do to....4 stops Goulburn-Canberra-Albury-Seymour.

    I remember reading somewhere that Mel - Syd was one of the top ten busiest
    air routes in the world...ah Wiki says its Number 4 with Syd - Bris at Number 11.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_busiest_passenger_air_routes
     
  16. Logique

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Latest: a sexy looking design, but at 400 km/hr you wouldn't catch me lounging around un-seatbelted like in the picture.
    http://www.news.com.au/travel/austr...oming-down-under/story-e6frfq89-1226072336508
    From Sydney to Melbourne in three hours on 400km/h Australian High Speed Vehicle
    By Kate Schneider
    From: news.com.au
    June 10, 2011

    "...TRAVELLERS may soon be speeding between Australian landmarks at up to 400km/h if a company's bullet train design takes off.
    Designer Hassall has released concept images for a high-speed Australian train called the Australian High Speed Vehicle (A-HSV).........The design was inspired by the 1960s HK Monaro car, well-known for its speed.
    'Inspired by the brut lines of the iconic Australian speed machine the 1960s HK Monaro, Hassell has designed the A-HSV to be responsive to the Australian context...'”
     
  17. Logique

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    Here is the picture from the article referenced in post above. Very groovy way to travel, not a seatbelt or a hand rail in sight, but all the same.

    400 km/hr - it'll frighten the living suitcase out of the cows. Like it's not enough they have to deal with UFOs and aliens trying to turn them inside-out.
     

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  18. Glen48

    Glen48 Money can't buy Poverty

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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    China's high speed trains are taking passengers off the planes as there is no check in's travel to and from air ports and quicker to reach the destinations, trouble is the Fed will be involved and have to make it run passed Adelaide to keep some independent happy.
    Have numerous studies and wait until the polls show it's a winner.
     
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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    :banghead:

    Sorry, just to clarify will that train be slower or faster than the NBN?

    You know as well as me, if its makes sense then the government wont do it.
     
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    Re: Brisbane <> Sydney Bullet train

    At 400km/r even a racing harness wouldn't make a difference ;)
     
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