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Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Garpal Gumnut, Oct 25, 2014.

  1. moXJO

    moXJO menace to society

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    Muslim Inbreeding is a Huge Problem - And People
    Don't Want to Talk About It

    “Saudi Arabia is a living genetics laboratory,” Dr. Stephen R. Schroeder, executive director of the Prince Salman Center for Disability Research, told the Times. “Here you can study 10 families to study genetic disorders, where you would need 10,000 families to study genetic disorders in the United States.”

    But it’s not just Saudi Arabia, or the Middle East for that matter. Inbreeding is surprisingly common in many Muslim nations and communities, evidence shows.

    About 40 percent of the population marries a cousin in Egypt, according to a 2016 report in The Economist, while the percentage in Jordan is 32 percent.

    “Rates are thought to be even higher in tribal countries such as Iraq and the Gulf states of Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Kuwait,” says the Economist.

    A 2005 BBC survey found that 55 percent of Britain’s huge Pakistani population was married to a first cousin.

    There are at least two reasons inbreeding is so common in parts of the Muslim world (in addition to ignorance of its link to genetic defects): tradition and religion.​




    Ban UK Pakistanis from marrying cousins
    LONDON: Britain's huge Pakistani community should be legally prevented from marrying first cousins, a Labour Party MP has declared, after new research showed Pakistani families produced an alarming 30% of the UK's genetically diseased children.

    The research, conducted by the BBC and broadcast to a shocked nation on Tuesday, found that at least 55% of the community was married to a first cousin.​

    This is thought to be linked to the probability that a British Pakistani family is at least 13 times more likely than the general population to have children with recessive genetic disorders.​

    The research found that while British Pakistanis accounted for just 3.4% of all births, they had 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality.​



    London borough finds one in five child deaths caused by parents being related
    Children of consanguineous couples accounted for 19 per cent of child death cases in Redbridge between 2008 and 2016, report shows

    One in five child deaths in an east London borough have occurred because the mother and father are related, a report has found.

    Redbridge Council found deaths of children from parents who were known consanguineous couples – meaning second cousins or more closely related – accounted for 19 per cent of 124 cases reviewed in the borough between 2008 and 2016.

    The number of consanguineous parents in the borough has increased in the past year, but there has been an overall decrease since 2009-10, when Redbridge recorded the highest numbers of interfamily relationships.

    Nine per cent of the children who died were from families with Pakistani origins – a group that had the highest rates of consanguineous parents, at 50 per cent, according to the report.
     
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    That's an interesting post DB008, I'm surprised the info hasn't been more widely reported.
    But I guess that isn't PC.
     
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    I went through the checkout at the supermarket yesterday. A Muslim woman in a hijab was the checkout chick, her face was completely battered and bruised, she'd used very think makeup in an attempt to hide it, and the hijab was pulled out and over more than usual to cover more of the face than usual, but it was still completely obvious. I cringe to think of how she looked after washing her face that night. She seemed quite terrified of the world and was over the top polite with me, treating me as an obvious superior to be feared, respected and pandered to.

    As a tall, white, straight man, I'm not sure who I can report something like that to without being convicted of some white supremacist hate crime of intolerance. It's their culture, literally spelled out directly in their holy book, after all. Obviously this is my fault, personally, as an individual. It's caused by an ideology which directly tells people to do exactly this and prescribes death for anyone who opposes it even if they so much as question a single word of it. It's my fault. Don't ask me how, just ask some lefty or something, they'll be able to explain it.
     
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    There are abuse centre's reach out to one of them
     
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    If you believe she was abused, you should report it. I don't think anyone would accuse you of being this or that; or would excuse her abuser as some sort of righteous "Muslim" following the teachings of their Holy Book.

    Even if the Koran and other Islamic books approve or teaches that, no lefty, no decent human bieng would put up with it. Not in Australia.

    But if you want to imply that Islam is violent and Muslims are taught to beat their wife (wives)... I'm sure there are some farkers who would use this and that book to justify their abuse. But come on... pretty much every culture and every religion have their share of wife beating a-holes.

    I'm sure we all know or heard of abusive partners. Had a friend some years ago and he was retelling how his a-hole brother in law of his in VN beat the crap out of his wife. Not just a touch or a push, not that that's acceptable, but full on punching bag kind of beating. We were both pizzed off hearing it. I'd hate to think that someone else would look at how that prick treat his wife and assume all us Viets do the same to ours.
     
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    Isam is a devise, archaic ideology that has at its very core, the want to dominate the world and it does not matter how it achieves this. I have followed the "islamisation" of the world for near 20 years and it is very clear. I can not remember when exactly but it was Colonel Gaddafi that said to the effect that we (islam) will dominate the World...and we will not need to fire a shot. This was in reference to moving to countries and over breed thereby via democratic rules, take control of the politics and well...rule the World. I would not want to be a women in an islamic country and it is happening all over the world as we speak. Unfortunately it is years too late to stop it and I can assure everyone that the country and freedoms our fore fathers fought 2 wars to protect will be lost in less than 10 years time. It is getting there now. We spend hundreds of millions to protect ourselves, not from other countries, but from "home grown" terrorists. It makes me extremely sad. Rant over.
     
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    Politicians in democracies follow the will of the people do they? Is that why the majority plebs are still plebs? They like living hand to mouth do they? Be to their eyeballs in debt, paying ever higher and higher for everything while their wages goes nowhere for some 4 decades?

    And no. Muslims do not escape to Europe with a master plan to rule the world (through democracy). btw, if they plan to rule through over breeding (more votes)... wouldn't the West still be democratic?

    Honestly, the vast majority of those who escape are genuine refugees. To think that they're terrorists or potential terrorists will not do us any good but will cause a heck of a lot of suffering on those who are trying to escape from the terror.
     
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    That "terror" is induced by their fellow Muslims.
     
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    By terrorists and warlords who claim to also be pious and Muslim. Nothing fellow about it.

    And to quote Trump, "King, you wouldn't last two weeks without us".

    Though to be fair to Western civilisation, China is pulling similar stuff in Africa too. War, famine, "resource curse".

    Can't ignore the suffering of others who might be victims. Jesus would not approve. So they have to be terrorists and lazy welfare seeking, world dominating backward ideological, religious crazies... then we reject them. For security and civilisation. :xyxthumbs
     
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    Don't make inane excuses for your inaction. I hope you do better next time.
     
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    As another example, yesterday I went to see a movie, and one of the cleaning staff called out to me. She recognised me, she used to work at a hotel I'd stayed at regularly when she was working there. Her face is completely disfigured from an horrific acid attack from a Muslim man who liked her, but the feeling wasn't mutual. She just accepts that these things can happen, and as a Muslim woman that's her place in the world. Having said that, she did report it to the police at the time, but he did a runner and they can't find him.

    Also worth mentioning is that I'm not currently in Australia, right now I'm in Thailand, and I'm not going to report anything of the sort here, for political reasons too long to discuss in this thread, but I also wouldn't in Australia, because I've tried that sort of thing in Australia and seen others try the same, and the results don't encourage you to do it again, and that's one small example of the many reasons I now spend only a few weeks per year in my home country.

    You just about need your eyes sewn shut to avoid seeing what's happening, but I suppose most people have a talent for blindness and a remarkable ability to believe the political narratives fed to them.

    And yes, of course you see this in all places and cultures, but it's radically higher among certain demographics. Islam isn't the demographic it's highest in in Australia (if I named that demographic I'd be vilified as racist, despite the fact that I'd merely be making a factual statement about women being abused and expressing my desire for that not to happen), but it's right up there, and of all the countries I've been to (and I rarely stay in the same country for more than a couple of months at a time, so I see quite a few), Islam is overwhelmingly the most extreme demographic for violence against women.

    But hey, feminists for Islam! You go, girl!
     
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    I was in India for some of this year. Sure is a dysfunctional country in many ways, and I certainly wouldn't want to have been born female there, but if I had been, I can wholeheartedly say I would not want to have the extra misfortune of being born into a Muslim family there.
     
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    Erdogan is a dictator and happy to talk like one, the attack in NZ will expose Australians else where in the world.
     
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    It exposes the double standard. We must play by Marquis of Queensbury, with one hand tied behind our back, while the rest of the world are running around with machetes and iron bars.

    Suicidal.
     
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