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How should landlords re-accommodate errant tenants who refuse to pay rent?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by helpme, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. helpme

    helpme

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    You are a landlord retiree and your main source of income is the rental income. Thanks to bad luck, you encounter a tenant who refuses to pay rent and refuses to leave. How do you re-accommodate this tenant?

    Is it legal to do it the United Airlines way? What are some other ways, preferably cheaper, to re-accommodate this errant tenant?
     
  2. tech/a

    tech/a No Ordinary Duck

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    I have Physically removed some shockers.
    3 never went to the Tribunal and 1 did.

    I payed the fine --end of tenant problems.

    But I wouldn't suggest you do that yourself.
    I'm setup to handle issues internally.

    Youll have to submit all the appropriate paperwork
    Give them ample time to trash your property.
    Read give them notice of eviction
    Then have the Sheriff evict them.
    All with no prospect of compensation.

    If you don't have Landlord insurance make sure
    you get it.---for next time.
     
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    Thanks. Getting insurance is a good idea.

    So, you really did it the United Airlines way? As long as care is taken that no serious injury results, it's not really a bad idea.

     
  4. sptrawler

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    If you go the tribunal way, be well prepared, have all your 'T"s crossed and 'I's dotted.
    The tribunals I've been to ,lean toward the tenant, if you don't have ALL the proof of rent arrears and proof of correct eviction process it will be thrown out.
    It is a painful process and little reward even if successful, that's why I got out of rentals, pre retirement.
    As tech/a said landlords insurance is a must.
    As for the United Airlines way, it is a risky play these days.
    I have taken a few XXXL friends around and talked to a tenant, to see if he needed a hand moving his gear, that works.
     
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  5. tech/a

    tech/a No Ordinary Duck

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    One guy threw his Girlfriend through a plate glass window.
    She went to hospital and Her mum took her daughter.

    I tossed the loser on the front lawn and had one of my crews
    put all his gear in the Carport.
    I gave him 24 hrs to remove it or Id dump it.
    I left the lock smiths to it.

    Ill ask nicely if warranted but if you act like a ferrel
    that's how Ill treat you.
    I had many great tenants many for many years.
    These people respect other peoples property and treat
    it as their own.

    Some people only understand their own
    Dialect if you understand me!
     
  6. helpme

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    You may be taking some risks yourself. If an accident happens, the "criminal" gets seriously permanently injured or even die, then you become a criminal. Not worth it. My personal observation is that once the beating starts, it is easy to lose control. Need some good discipline if one wants to do it the United Airlines way. I guess you got discipline more than most people but still ... there's always the risk of an accident.

     
  7. SirRumpole

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    So, is there a register of bad payers that one can access before renting a place out ?
     
  8. tech/a

    tech/a No Ordinary Duck

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    Injury is almost certain.


    You need referrals that you can verify.
    Not one of their mates.
    You can also have your property managed.

    I sold all my domestic housing and now only rent commercial property.
    much easier. Less of a time drain.
     
  9. helpme

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    Hi tech/a,

    Have you considered REITs? Wouldn't that be even less of a time drain? Zero risk of bad tenants. Dividends are probably even higher than renting out a property. No maintenance effort on your part too.
     
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    tech/a No Ordinary Duck

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    No

    I like to build it and own it.
    I'm addicted to capital gain
    and an increasing rent roll.

    ---moving his gear--NOW

    Seriously I have zero tolerance for freeloaders with no respect
    for other peoples property, who drain everything from anyone they can.
    Yet THEY are the protected species.

    F***ed world
     
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    pixel DIY Trader

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    A friend (unit neighbour) did that.
    Fat lot of good it did her: The rental agent did bugger-all; she wasn't even notified when the tenant moved out, but left furniture and kids' wall drawings inside. Two months later, the tenant returned, put all the junk out on the front porch and carport, stacked what could be reused on a ute and trailer, then left. Agent told landlord and Strata Committee that tenant had left without paying rent, but the junk couldn't be touched in case they'd return to pick it up. "So sayeth The Act" they claimed, and nothing could be done about it. After six weeks, the owner finally took matters into her own hand and paid a rubbish remover and locksmith.
    The unit remains untenanted. Much cheaper in the long run.
     
  12. OmegaTrader

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    THIS IS NOT ADVICE

    1) Prevention, prevention, prevention, insurance , insurance , insurance


    2)Agents are mediocre.
    The amount of incompetence is amazing. Agents not knowing tenants have left, agents not putting fences in contracts after tenants break them.... It goes on

    3) Bond and insurance.
    Hopefully if you do the work yourself after taking the insurance money then that will make up for some of the damages. I think alot of people do that with insurance and actually make a profit by doing it themselves or getting a cheaper quote.

    4) The proper way is a pain. Have to give notice etc. So they leave trash the joint, moldy food, rubbish everywhere, smashed up doors. Most people give up before facing the music. Cops won't do anything.

    The united airlines way is not recommended if you value your safety and can cause all sorts of problems.
    DO NOT TOUCH ANYONE it is not worth it.
     
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    The United Airlines analogy is life physically removing a good tenant.

    You don't do that.
    Those that need intervention are those who trash your property
    Refuse to pay rent
    Squat
    Abuse you or their neighbours.

    They are very willing to take you on
    I've had guys with bats And he was a friend of the tenant.
    Turning off the water is handy.dropping 10 tonne of dirt in the Driveway blocking their car in also works well.
    These people respect no one
    I won't respect them.
     
  14. OmegaTrader

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    Just know the line. You have to be very careful how far you go.That is all I would say.
     
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    As an ex-Debt collector who has had a knife & gun pulled on them -- the advice that sptrawler has given is the only advice to consider.

    skate
     
  16. tech/a

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    I agree
    If you can't make a coffee go and
    Buy it
    If you can't drive take a cab.

    If you have fear of the tenants and fear of the consequences of
    Taking control of your property then taking matters into your own hand is definitely not for you.
     
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