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More people, more animals to feed them, more crops to feed the animals, more land clearing to graze the herds and plant the crops more environmental degradation.
There has to be a carrying capacity of any land area given its rainfall, soil type and suitability but no one seems to have studied this issue in depth, or if they have it's been swept under the carpet.
secondly, allowing the marginal areas to return to nature would actually be a good thing, as we wouldn’t need as much farm land.
Also, if there is enough water for a heard of cattle to eat and drink, then you have more than enough water to run modern protected cropping such as this,
It is true that a lot of cattle raised on land unusable for anything else ends up being fattened up before slaughter, but this still doesn't make them equivalent to the figures being used, and by no means holds any water with the 'veganism is efficient' argument, since it would be perfectly feasible to farm something like goats or kangaroos on that land without any fattening up. You are ignoring the fact that with extremely little input, a large amount of meat can be produced on land which can not be used to grow plants. Sure, we don't always do it efficiently (with plants either, mind you - do you think those ultra processed plant-based foods are made as efficiently as they could be?) but it absolutely is possible.
I do enjoy vegan and carnivore food. Whether the UK Farmer's Union is correct or not you and others can argue in the slow cooker of debate.
It was published in a paper of record, and I quoted it. Google it for the original article but it's behind a firewall.
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Pity we can't just use any form of energy to run humans.
If we could be electrically powered then it would be less than a 10% increase in power consumption.
Or if we used petrol then just one litre contains enough energy to run an adult human for 4 days.
Not that I recommend connecting yourself to mains electricity or drinking petrol indeed both are sure to kill you.
Pretty funny she'd ask what platypus tastes like! I wouldn't kill one to eat it and I probably will never taste platypus, but in the absolute freak event that I saw one get killed by a falling tree branch or something, I'd definitely cook it up!Johny5 likes this.
International shipping is down drastically, supply chains are failing and food is sitting at ports worldwide waiting for customs clearance. To make matters worse some places in the world are seeing the hoarding of food and other necessities.
Even though there is an abundance of food in the world our interdependence on other countries through specialisation, trade and globalisation is now proving to be very fragile system indeed.
do a bit of research to find out how much amazon rainforest is being cleared to grow soybeans and other crops to feed cattle.
do you really think the majority of steaks, bacon and chicken are coming from wild game? or that it would be even possible to feed the world from wild game cost effectively.
and as for wild caught fish, well we already know that the oceans are struggling at their limit, we can’t really double the fish we take.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/10/economy/china-food-prices-coronavirus-pork/index.html Chinas CPI up 5.4% in January
dude, 80% of Beef sold in Australian super markets comes from feedlots, 100% of chicken and 100% of pigs also are raised in feedlots.
It’s actually you missing the point, if we weren’t feeding all those animals crops, we wouldn’t need to farm the marginal land and it could be returned to nature.
And as I said, if you really really really want to use marginal land for some reason, you could using protected cropping.
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