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Electric cars?

Discussion in 'Business, Investment and Economics' started by tothemax6, Jan 22, 2011.

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Would you buy an electric car?

  1. Already own one

    2 vote(s)
    2.2%
  2. Yes - would definitely buy

    18 vote(s)
    19.6%
  3. Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    43 vote(s)
    46.7%
  4. Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

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  5. No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    6 vote(s)
    6.5%
  6. No - would never buy one

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  1. SirRumpole

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    Thanks, looks good.
     
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    The whole tax system is a problem, I posted this in July in the Labor Party thread.
    It is quite a good summary.

    https://thewest.com.au/opinion/shan...when-the-the-tax-river-runs-dry-ng-b88901750z

    The Tax system is not functioning as it was intended and all the Governments want to do is band aid it, or pretend there isn't a problem.
    It is amazing how powerful the fear of being voted out is, they would rather run the system down, rather than face voter backlash.
    The problems aren't going away.
     
  5. moXJO

    moXJO menace to society

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    How much lithium do we actually have?
    I'm seeing figures that say 350 years worth. And others saying it will last to 2050. Producing enough is also a problem.
     
  6. sptrawler

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    I would assume they don't actually know, because the companies haven't been actively drilling for it, a lot of what they are locating now is in old mine areas like Greenbushes tin mine in W.A. The old core samples probably showed lithium in the analysis reports, so now they are re opening as lithium mines and doing exploratory drilling. Just my guess.
     
  7. ghotib

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    Almost mainstream? The Driven ( https://thedriven.io/ ) is a new website focusing electric vehicles and "the transition to zero carbon transport".

    From the description on parent site RenewEconomy:
    Personally I'd rather have the vehicle than the news, but for now I'll take what I can get :)
     
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    Looks like the big boys have woken up and ready to beat the crap out of Tesla.

    It might be a reversal of the Ford Motor Company where the Mercedes etc. built cars for fancy people. Came Ford who bring it to the masses and eat all their lunches.

    Though to be fair, Tesla does try to go for the masses after the initial luxury market. Proved too costly and could be a bit too late.
     
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    While on the subject of Ford, they are in talks with VW about joint ventures, that will make one big auto power house.

    https://www.dw.com/en/ford-and-volkswagen-eye-strategic-partnership/a-44302618

    I have the feeling, in a few years, everyone will be talking about Tesla as a pioneer, but alas I feel they will go the way of the dinosaur.
    With the advent of electric vehicles, it will be get big or get out.
    The low maintenance requirement and exactly the same drive trains in all vehicles, will result in manufactures only making money on initial sales, this will send many to the wall.
    The resultant loss of jobs in auto related industries, will also be massive, it isn't going to be pretty.
     
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    Yea, not pretty.

    The days of a car or two for every family might be history too I reckon.

    As population grow, limited land and space; higher prices for fuel etc., public transport might be all that's needed for most days of the week for a large portion of the population.

    On weekend getaways and the like... the new self-driving tech could make renting/taxi-ing quite affordable and efficient I reckon.

    Either way, Tesla can't keep burning $1B a quarter forever.
     
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    The loss of taxation will cause its own issues, fuel excise gone, when autonomous driving cars come in speeding, red light and most other types of vehicle related fines gone.

    The Government will have to find new and creative ways to fund the police, the police will have to start and solve non road related crimes, which will go up as more people find illegal ways to maintain their lifestyle.
     
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    There's always fines for jay walking. Doubling it on Holidays and long weekends too. :xyxthumbs

    Man, imagine how much they can rake in on NY Eve.

    Then there's the American innovation of seizing "suspicious" driver's car, assets while booking them for driving poor. Some of their police department fund themselves entirely through that scheme.
     
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    Autonomous driven cars, will make it really difficult for getaway drivers.
    "If you wish to proceed through the red light, you must accept the disclaimer, if you wish to accept the disclaimer you will have to enter your password"

    " your password has been accepted, you may go through the light, by the way it is green now".

    "please proceed to the next light".
    If you don't wish to have these interruptions to your journey, please engage auto pilot"
     
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    With Jay walking, the cars will recognise a mobile phone, and will stop. Otherwise it will have front sensing camera's, like my car does and stop.
    So there wont be any money there either.
    It will be a really interesting World, they will just have to tax the $hit out of anyone with money or assetts, which everyone seems happy with anyway.
    So the poor will have a good time, until those with money, run out of money. :xyxthumbs
    Then there won't be any easy targets.
     
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    Hi VC, I personally would get the refund back and buy a Nissan Leaf.

    https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/tesla-ceo-smokes-marijuana-stock-falls-ng-s-1890257

    It might be just a publicity gimmic, but he is running out of three card tricks, and the competition is heating up.
     
  17. CanOz

    CanOz Home runs feel good, but base hits pay bills!

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    Tesla has been upgraded by two US brokers as they see them turning a profit in the second half.

     
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    Musk is coming across as losing it.
    Him doubling down on his pedo slurs was worrying.
     
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    He must be under a hell of a lot of stress, I wondn't want to be in his shoes for quids .
     
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    I don't have the exact dates at hand but the Model3 Australia launch is due any day simultaneous in Melb Syd Bris... Model3 Production at the moment is north of average 5000 units a week. Gigafactory2 is getting busy in Buffalo...
    https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-gigafactory-2-job-creation-buffalo-ny/

    Following the thoughts of Jack Rickard at EVTV; his interest is in Elons work at upsetting the short sellers. Long reads for those interested.
    http://evtv.me

    And the coalitions work on encouraging industry development in these blue sky futures is??/
     
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