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I think Harry Trigaboff of Meriton would also be advising now is the time to buy residential property...
 
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Clearly expressed the U.S. attitude toward rogue nations around the world during his speech to the U.N. General Assembly. Good to see someone actually get up there and give notice to the rogue nations.
 

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Clearly expressed the U.S. attitude toward rogue nations around the world during his speech to the U.N. General Assembly. Good to see someone actually get up there and give notice to the rogue nations.
I like this tough talking Donald. For 'Mr Rocket Man' of Nth Korea, a little bit of his own medicine
 
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What a pathetic speech. The leader of the most powerful country the world has ever known has nothing to offer beyond copying the hollow tub-thumping of a global pariah. America's decline is well and truly underway, and every time Trump engages in this stupid, playground hyperbole he reminds America's allies and enemies of this fact. I doubt anyone in NK is losing sleep over Trump.
 

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PM Malcolm Turnbull and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop both liked this speech by the President.

I'm not hearing any condemnation of '..stupid playground hyperbole' when Kim Jong Un says it
 

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What a pathetic speech. The leader of the most powerful country the world has ever known has nothing to offer beyond copying the hollow tub-thumping of a global pariah. America's decline is well and truly underway, and every time Trump engages in this stupid, playground hyperbole he reminds America's allies and enemies of this fact. I doubt anyone in NK is losing sleep over Trump.

Ill agree with you if another rocket is launched with no response from the US.

I sense this is coming to a head.

If its not then in the eyes of the world friend and foe it will be pathetic.

The longer this guy tests and accumulates to worse the situation.
Not to mention chemical weapons! He's stupid enough to use anything
he can get.
 
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I'm not hearing any condemnation of '..stupid playground hyperbole' when Kim Jong Un says it

Forgive me if I hold the most powerful person on earth to a higher standard than a 32 year old dictator from a nothing country.

Most of the people I know laugh at Kim's rhetoric, no one takes it seriously enough that it qualifies for condemnation. It shows how far the US has slid that their own president is now in the gutter going tit-for-tat with the fat kid.
 

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The trouble with being the upholder of all righteousness in the world is the double standards not so easily disguised. I think Rocket Man is helping them realise American influnece is resented in some parts of the world. You know, if you're not supporting America you are against them.
 
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What Trump is doing is countering the advantage China is trying to gain by trying to embroil the US in North Korea.

Trump is simply saying to China, we are not going to fall for that, we will just destroy the whole country at little expense to us and all that will be left is South Korea exactly what you don't want.
So F*ck off with your underhanded provocation.
 

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What Trump is doing is countering the advantage China is trying to gain by trying to embroil the US in North Korea.
If China set up military bases in Mexico I can imagine what angst there would be. U.S. has military bases in Japan and South Korea which clearly does not impress the Chinese who see themselves an equal world power along with Russia. Japan v U.S. WW2 yet buddy buddy nowadays even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki civilian population nuclear bombs.
 
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What a pathetic speech. The leader of the most powerful country the world has ever known has nothing to offer beyond copying the hollow tub-thumping of a global pariah. America's decline is well and truly underway, and every time Trump engages in this stupid, playground hyperbole he reminds America's allies and enemies of this fact. I doubt anyone in NK is losing sleep over Trump.

So true, better Trump sorts his own mess out in his own country first.

Now, who has the most nuclear weapons on this planet, who is a greater threat to destroying the world?

Don't trust what you have be told, trust what you believe.

War has never been a answer to solve conflict and never will.

The US is a dying empire, riddle in debt and fake promises.
 
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And your model of society is?
  1. Where hard work is rewarded,
  2. people who take risks are admired,
  3. those who use violence are condemned,
  4. bankers serve the people instead of controlling the populace,
  5. where there are more pubs for community cohesion than there are real estate agents,
  6. where ducks get to roam free,
  7. where conversation and difference in opinion is appreciated,
  8. where people have some moral ethics,
  9. Politicians represent the people
  10. Leaders actually lead
  11. And good apples and peaches are available to everyone

And you my friend, what is your stance? Our are you just another without convictions or moral thought? (take that last bit away, I know who you are, and you and I am but the same)
 
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What?

It is not a football match, no winners or losers.

Bit disappointed that is your reply, but then again you are just a duck!
 
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If China set up military bases in Mexico I can imagine what angst there would be. U.S. has military bases in Japan and South Korea which clearly does not impress the Chinese who see themselves an equal world power along with Russia. Japan v U.S. WW2 yet buddy buddy nowadays even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki civilian population nuclear bombs.

Forget about China (or any country) setting up bases in Mexico (or anywhere near the Americas)... if they do, the US will risk nuclear annihilation just to make the point.

That's not theoretical or rhetorical, they've done it when the Soviets sent a few nukes to Cuba in the 50s. Despite what Kevin Costner's 13 Days depict... JFK push the world to the brink of nuclear war just to watch the Soviets blink.

And why did the Soviets sent Castro the nukes? Because they got intel saying that JFK has ordered another invasion on Cuba, one that's about to get the greenlight soon. That and the Khrushchev and his comrades thought that since the US has nukes pointing at them from Turkey, on B52s circling the Motherland... so why can't they do tit for tat?

Well, only the yank can tit... but no one else can tat.

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As for Japan and S.Korea being buddy/buddy with the US... not really. I mean the leadership of those countries must appear to be partners with the US, but that's what you do when you're put in place to run the colony.

I've read some years back some analyst was saying that there are hardline "patriots" in Japan (and presumably S/Korea) who are pushing for war and instability in the region so that they can have an excuse to build up their country's military (again) and arms industry... hoping that it would weaken the US's grip and some opportunity to regain more, if not total, independence.


Most statesman (states-person :D) would not be capable enough to navigate these delicate manoeuvres. Trump is so unprepared and incapable it's a good thing the US is not run by his imperial presidency.

But seeing how he has a hard-on for generals and war parades, then picking either general or wall st bankers, billionaires and sycophants to fill his administration... The Decline... then the Fall.
 
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Russia backed down but JFK never invaded Cuba. Further JFK confronted Russians in the sea with boats not Nukes!
 
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Russia backed down but JFK never invaded Cuba. Further JFK confronted Russians in the sea with boats not Nukes!

The Bay of Pigs was planned by his predecessor/CIA but he greenlight it. Famously blame his naivety to have believed in "experts" when it failed.

There were many other attempts to take out Castro under his admin. His brother was quite involved in a few ideas to take the Cuban out.

Can't remember where I heard it, who from, but definitely heard that the Soviets sent nukes to Cuba because they got intel of plans to imminently invade it. I'm guessing you can't keep to the invasion plan once you almost went nuclear when the plan was exposed. They did keep to the sanctions until just last year though.


At about 3:35. JFK risked nuclear war just to humiliate the Soviets.

All these time I thought JFK was a peacenik. Heck, he's as Hawkish as other "great" presidents... telling his brother-in-law, Gore Vidal, that what would Lincoln be without the Civil War etc.

 
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