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A new book is about to be released detailing business, political and religious individuals and institutions influenced and maybe controlled by China.

Former NSW Premier Bob Carr features, as well as universities and churches.

There is a debate as to whether it will actually see the light of day.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-22/book-reveals-extent-of-chinese-influence-in-australia/9464692
I think it was the current US Ambassador to Australia who said that Australia can have many friends but only one master.

Alright, he didn't use the word "master" but we all ought to know what he meant. :D

So we, i.e. our politicians, can play around. Get their beaks wet, their interests served. But when push come to shove, they will go back to their roots: Ireland.

But as a Chinese saying goes, Beijing is at our gates and Washington is very far away.
 

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Fairly soon we'll see if China is a nascent autocracy.

It's always a problem with obedient religions like islam, catholicism, the greens and communism, they allow dictators to rise.
 
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Actually the USA is closer.
Is that from the Beijing to Hainan or the end of the new but very old and historical Nine-Dash, South China Sea? :D

But then there's Darwin and Gap Pine or whatever so you're right.
 
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Fairly soon we'll see if China is a nascent autocracy.

It's always a problem with obedient religions like islam, catholicism, the greens and communism, they allow dictators to rise.
That was the old Confucian China.

The new China is like that of Western Democracy: A few families own and control everything with the masses thinking they're in control. I mean, "the people's" this and that vs democracy and free open elections where the candidates are chosen for you the tick boxes against.

Alright, maybe that's not fair. In the more civilised West, the ruling elite don't bother with the actual administration of their kingdom - they have elected officials to do that. That's a bit like the old Chinese aristocrats growing their finger nails long to show that they're so rich they have servants doing everything for them.

But both civilisations... their plebs have begun to wonder about all these talk of fairness and people sharing and helping each other with the grace of the senior comrades and job creators. Which could lead to some interesting fireworks of the civil kind.
 

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China is now under dictatorship.
Duh....have I missed something??

The path to reform was shifted with hu jin Tao....they've not not managed to.prove themselves any different from any other ccp leader...other then a firmer grip on power.
 
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Did they (over)pay for it Daddy?

Yes son, they sure did.

What's the problem then? That's what our ancestors also did when they first arrived during the first few fleets...

Well... ermmm...

Oh that's right, no one lived here so there's no need to pay.

Yes! That's it!

:D
 

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That's no dictatorship, that's Imperial Grand Strategy: The Return of the Son of Heaven.
Yeah well the grand poobah has targets on his back after cracking down on all that corruption (except his own).
He better hope he ain't sent back to heaven in the near future.
 
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China is apparently rolling out surface to air and anti ship missiles on the island it gave a pledge to the contrary.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-09/26/c_134660968.htm
Did they pinky promise? No? :D

I heard that they're also planning to fund and build the "Thai Canal". Bypassing Singapore and the Malacca strait.

If the Thais are still with the Yank and says no, the Chin will definitely back a few Muslims in that part of the south and annex it like the US and Panama.
 
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Certain history book has it that a renegade general of Chin established Vietnam proper after the Han took over Xian. Ever since, every new dynasty took possession of the place.

The current one already own Laos, are trying the carrots on Cambodia, already took the East Sea [aka, South China Sea]. Just a matter time before VN either rejoin or have to invite the Yanks back in again.
 

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Certain history book has it that a renegade general of Chin established Vietnam proper after the Han took over Xian. Ever since, every new dynasty took possession of the place.

The current one already own Laos, are trying the carrots on Cambodia, already took the East Sea [aka, South China Sea]. Just a matter time before VN either rejoin or have to invite the Yanks back in again.
When did the Chin establish Vietnam proper?

https://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/vietnam/vntimeln.htm
 
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From that link,
  • (208BC) Chinese general, Trieu Da, made himself emperor of Nam Viet (part of present-day northern Vietnam and China)

Trieu served under Chin Shi Hoang, the First Emperor.

When Chin collapsed and Han took over the Middle Kingdom, Trieu decided to start his own little colony around his outpost. Marrying the nearby Chief's daughter, taught the tribe a few ways to liberate and pacify the other barbarians and so on.

Historian put that as the beginning of modern day Vietnam. From a small outpost it soon spread south and west, taking land and killing natives until the French came in to put a stop to it. Well, not exactly a stop but you get the idea.
 
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