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Better Health Thread

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Solly, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. Solly

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  2. Joules MM1

    Joules MM1 ....everything has an art

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    there's a plethora of immune modulating foods we eat everyday, some sympathetic others, well, not so much, rather than sink into the quagmire of what's bad let's simply input what's good, what's effective, preferably peer-reviewed, not requiring detrimental commentary on industry, rather, ideas on what can make a difference to our health that we, ourselves, can effect especially as, mostly, we are not aware of what we do can do both negatively impacting our bodies both long and short-term whereas we can be disposed to being positive on our bodies both short and long-term

    keep in mind whole foods and whole-some and (w)holistic ideas with these posts,
    less goss, less gloss, more.....evidence-based

    B-Glucans #cancer #immunity #immune #yeast

    https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/98743
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    not beer yeast !+

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    Joules MM1 ....everything has an art

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    Joules MM1 ....everything has an art

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  5. Darc Knight

    Darc Knight Investor not Trader

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    I haven't read the Study, but I certainly wouldn't see that as Push Ups alone being a good way to achieve cardio vascular health. I suspect it's just a matter of people who hold more upper (or general) body muscle mass and strength are generally healthier and fitter than those who don't.
     
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    Seems logical to me.

    Same concept as saying that the test is a valid measure of knowledge on a subject but "teaching to the test" is a very bad move so far as actual education is concerned.

    Likewise ability to do push ups is a measure of fitness but targeting your exercise specifically to increase that measure isn't the right approach since it effectively rigs the measure and makes it of less value.
     
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    40 is a decent amount. Any middle aged bloke who can do that wont be by accident. It means they are interested in strength, health and some level of fitness. Compare with the bloke who cant do 10. Probably no active interest in strength or fitness at all. Good findings though...just confirms that health and exercise are protective against heart problems.
    Must see if I can do 40...at 55 i think i might fail at about 30.....
    Edit..no i can just squeeze out 40.
     
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    I came across Dr Michael Mosley with his healthy living/fast dieting approach on some excellent BBC programs. Very impressive.

    What has really blown me away though is his extensive work and research on the rapid improvement to health using a fast 800 diet. As it suggests this is a 800 calorie a day diet which it seems most people can handle and which loses 2-3kgs a week.

    There is much more to it than just 800 calories. His diet reduces carbs substantially , keeps protein levels up, reduces processed foods as far as possible and is not overly fussed with fat. He is also exceptionally clever in constructing a number of tasty, easy to prepare recipes that aren't the infamous lettuce leaf on cracker diet.
    My partner and I have been on the diet for a week. We have both lost around 2.5kgs. She has already been able to go off a medication that was controlling gastic upset ! Well work a look.

    The Fast 800 book is an excellent read. Clear in it's science ; accessible in it's language and very encouraging in it's tone. Great recipes for the diet and many practical alternatives.


    https://thefast800.com/
    https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/The-Fast-800/Michael-Mosley/9781760850180
     
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  9. Darc Knight

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    800 calories a day! Sounds like fun Bas .... not. I assume fluids are being kept up, at least I hope so.
    Eliminating Carbs, still wouldn't be allowing a huge Protein, Fibre and Fat intake though.
     
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    The proof is in the eating DK. I can only say I'm "a bit of a pig" but I have been following these meals for a week with little trouble and excellent results.

    They aren't scungzy meal sizes. They are very tasty and filling. I am also surprised.
     
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    The higher Protein and Fibre diets are more filling and better for Fat loss. Still 800 cals and low Fat, your sex drive might plummet :p
     
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    URR ERR.... going on a more plant base diet helps one to lose weight and clean ones arteries and blood vessels and surprise, surprise......the flag still rises "hard up" the flag pole.
    No kidding. :D
    I've lost 5kgs and hope to go lower.

    Had I known this when I was younger, just for the flag I would eat more veggies and not put on so much weight.
    Like the saying goes "Mum knows best, eat your veggies" and dad know nothing about the flag and the flag pole.:p

    Anyone with Netflix watch "Fork over Knives".
    Use to be on Youtube, now only trailers.
     
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    Low Cals and low Fats are notorious for destroying hormonal levels.
     
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    On 1 January I stopped drinking alcohol and eating food containing refined sugar. Since then I have lost ~5kg without any change in my daily physical activity.

    I still eat fruit and occasionally drink a glass of fruit juice. It now tastes far sweeter than it used to. I find that I no longer crave the sweet stuff in the supermarket such as cakes and biscuits.

    If you want to lose weight, stop eating (and drinking) sugar. It really does work and it's almost effortless if you can get past the first week or two when your body goes haywire and you have some mean mood swings.
     
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    Nice one Super glue, Greggles. Clearly more than one way to thin a cat.
    To be fair I did have a healthy diet but I was just eating too much AND the morning and afternoon chocolate bickies were the killers.

    But now for something completely different. The story of the great MacFadden. Truly a character. Interesting read

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    Putting the “Fad” in Macfadden

    By Peter Carlson
    December 2017 • American History Magazine

    Bernarr Macfadden walked around New York City barefoot so his soles could absorb the earth’s magnetic forces. He slept on the floor so his blood would be able to flow according to its natural magnetic rhythm. He exercised his hair follicles by rhythmically yanking his mop, producing a disheveled appearance to match his threadbare suits. Guards at a Manhattan office building once barred him from entering until they realized that he owned the place.

    Macfadden made millions selling Americans on his eccentric theories about health. He created Physical Culture magazine, formed the Macfadden Institute of Physical Culture, and opened the Physical Culture Hotel, whose lobby featured a statue of Macfadden naked. He founded Physical Culture City, a New Jersey town that banned phenomena its proprietor deemed unhealthy—alcohol and tobacco, doctors and medicines.

    “Medicine has had its day,” Macfadden said. “It belongs to the ignorance of the distant past.”
    https://www.historynet.com/putting-fad-macfadden.htm
     
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    What about the reo. bars in the concrete floor?


    It does buggered me up when I was on veggies.
    Now not 100% on plant based food, still eat meat, carbs, oils and more veggies.

    Do fasting too and now have brunch instead, takes awhile for the body to get use to it and try not to graze

    1 - I tried having one normal portion controlled meal (anything you fancy within a limit) and salad or smaller meal for the other. I find I'm able to control my weight.
    2 - Whenever I'm up to it I go salad, salad and booom weight goes down, down 1 kg since my first posting last Tuesday.
    3 - Then plateau back to 1

    So far, tried twice of the above method and seems to works for me.
    This is better than salad for both main meals, that is when most people gives up.
     
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    General rule of thumb is to gradually reduce your calorie intake below maintenance level, say 100 cals below maintenance, otherwise you'll be losing muscle mass and too much strength and energy. When weight loss stalls drop another 100 cals (200 below maintenance now). Keep protein and Fibre high. Increase activity to burn more cals if needed.
    Track your calorie intake using an App such as MyfitnessPal. There are also websites to help you determine your maintenance calorie level depending on sex, activity levels etc.
     
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    Took too much weight in china so loosing it by keeping an eye on intake.everyday less than 8200kj is the target loosing average of 200g a day with normal food.just reduce number biscuit and sizes for high energy.munch on 6 almonds or a fruit.
    Other diet which worked well in term of weight liss was low no carb stop sugar, flour, eat as much meat or vegies as you please.weight loss was very rapid, not too sure of actual hit on health so trying a more reasonable diet
    800 calories is really low Basilio.
    Can you still function well for physical activities..gardening, digging, etc?
     
  19. Joules MM1

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    https://therealtruthaboutweightloss.com/

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    most of the practitioners you see in the above pic i have followed over the last few years, they tend to whole-food, plant-based foods with an orientation to using diet as a preventative lifestyle and in many instances for lifetsyle recovery (helping you recover from your life "style")
     
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    Fruit and Veg promote feelings of well being as well. Not only are you healthier but you feel happier. There's even a Study to prove it (some British University recently).
     
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