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Australian Federal Election - 2016

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by piggybank, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. noco

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    Maybe I am right and maybe I am wrong for thinking the way I do and could possibly be branded as a bit eccentric...I don't really care what people think...I, like Pauline Hanson, like to speak my mind.

    I am beginning to wonder after 9 months in the job as PM and after placing lots of ideas on the table to repair the debt and deficit left by Labor and suffering the obstruction and humiliation by the media, Labor and the senate, whether it became all too hard for miracle Malcolm and he decided to throw in the towel, lose the election and let Labor paddle in the fiscal mess....But it now looks like Turnbull will still have to carry the baby.

    Turnbull has gone too far to the left and has stuffed the Liberal Party well and truly..Now Cory Benardi wants ot quit and form a conservative Party.....What next?

    Turnbull was offered the tools by his campaign team to attack Shorten but he refused to use them....So one has to ask why?

    Or was it some kind of conspiracy with Labor to ensure we went further down the path of socialism after all Turnbull wanted to join the Labor Party and was refused entry.......One has to ask the question why?...Was this the time he decided to help Labor win?

    What did Turnbull have to lose?.......He has $200 million in the bank......He could resign and sit back on his fat tax payer pension......Sit on a few corporate boards...Lucy is CEO of PrIma Biomed.....He may have even been offered some remuneration from Labor.

    And Malcolm Fraser said "Life was never meant to be easy".
     
  2. dutchie

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    Labor would have won the election if Albanese had replaced Billiar.
     
  3. overhang

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    So much of the right wing media blames the poor result on Turnbull for losing touch with the conservative values of the Liberal party and it may have merit as they have lost a lot of votes to conservative parties. But I know for many others Turnbull failed to direct the party back to the middle ground and was clearly shackled by the far right of the party. What progressive policies did they have? Their super plan certainly hit their core followers and lost them a few votes but super needed to be reformed.

    I have no doubt Turnbull lost votes for not being conservative enough but he also lost votes for not being able to separate himself from the far right of the party that are very out of touch with the average Australian. Do people actually forget why Abbott was doing so badly in the polls?
     
  4. SirRumpole

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  5. qldfrog

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    I did it and what can they do about it?
    Fine Rumpy?


    just kidding of course but I wonder the fragility of the present system in facing a mild rebellion movement?
     
  6. qldfrog

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    Can not agree more...
     
  7. Knobby22

    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    Yes, perfectly stated.
     
  8. McLovin

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    Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Cory.

    You bet he did. The fact is that had either side managed to win the centre they would have formed a government with a large majority. I don't know why Bill Shorten is doing a victory lap of the country. The ALP got its second lowest ever primary vote.
     
  9. SirRumpole

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    Couldn't agree more. If he said what he really stood for instead of hanging on to the Liberal coattails very few would vote for him.
     
  10. wayneL

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    He could call it the Pharisee Party
     
  11. drsmith

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    Today,

    Sworn in government: Coalition/Labor $1.01/$16.00.

    Hung parliament Y/N: $1.25/$3.75.

    Coalition majority/minority: $1.27/$3.50.
    Labor majority/minority: $51.00/$11.00.

    Another election in 2016: $16.00.

    Bill Shorten's victory lap is looking increasingly premature.

    Malcolm Turnbull has thus far clearly been unable to unite the Liberal party after toppling Tony Abbott leading to conflicting policy goals within the party. This perhaps explains why the government since Malcolm Turnbull has take over has lacked a clear policy narrative.
     
  12. trainspotter

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    Katter just announced support for Turnbull government.
     
  13. drsmith

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    ABC now has Coalition/Labor 73/66 with 5 independent and 6 undecided. Of the undecided, the Coalition are in front in Ford and Labor are in front with the rest (only by 8 now in Hindmarsh).

    Forde is likely to go to the Libs and Cowan to Labor making it 74/67. The rest depend on the remaining postal votes to be counted. 74 to 78 is the realistic range now for the Coalition depending on how the remaining postal votes go. 75 or 76 is most likely in my view. 75 is needed to remove the risk of Labor being able to legislate from opposition.
     
  14. CanOz

    CanOz Home runs feel good, but base hits pay bills!

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    S&P doesn't like things at the moment:rolleyes:

    Must not be paying the right people the right incentives...

     
  15. sptrawler

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    Sad result for the LNP and Australia in general,IMO, I would rather have seen an ALP or LNP majority.
    Just another 3 years of sliding down the chute.
     
  16. drsmith

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    A 76 seat majority is probably more likely than 75 now with the way the postal count is running.
     
  17. explod

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    For many years governing has not taken place on the floor of the Parliament. Decisions are made behind closed doors by the ruling party and is imposed on Parliament because of the greater numbers of sheep over the other smaller numbers of sheep.

    With numbers near equal this time, matters will need to be aired and sorted on the floor of the house, hopefully.

    The people have voted/decided, which is democracy, and the mix so chosen have a responsibity to follow that decision and govern according to the people's wishes. So a bit of sorting and new thinking, hey.

    It was often said by the old timers I knew out of the great depression that, "the hard way is the only way to really learn and that one has to first fall into the gutter to find the real go to stand on ones own feet"

    Our pollies have been spoon fed for too long so lets hope they can rise to the occasion of the hard times ahead.

    In my humble opinion.
     
  18. orr

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    The timing of Chilcot Reports release into the Iraq debacle and the obsequious complicity of howard's ineptitude, to my recollection, has had no mention in the pg's of this thread, and much my failure I cannot give address to the timing necessities of our just past election. But given the line ball margin now involved... consider yourselves very lucky LNP...and I wish many 'craig thomson' moments ahead for you...
    Those turd$ you cannot kleen from your shoes(or jackboot) ....You'll be seeing it more than likely on the right.
     
  19. sptrawler

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    I have to agree with that.
     
  20. Tisme

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    Cory will be a great irritation, perhaps an Achilles heal, inside or outside the party.

    Meanwhile the bigger question is Howard's appearance last night on Lateline:


    http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...n/news-story/720406a07b754b017aeca1470415a57c
     
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