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ATO is not a legal entity by its own admission

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Well after discovering Ron Paul and his call to get rid of the IRS in America because it is illegal and unconstitutional, I decided to investigate the ATO, and guess what.

The ATO is not a legal entity by it's own admission

The ATO is also a private, foreign owned business, hence it is called "Office", not "Department." If the ATO denies being foreign owned private business, make them sign a JP witnessed Statutory Declaration so they can perjure themselves.

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/tax.htm


Is the ATO operating legally? - http://www.itwillpass.com/tax_ato_not_legal.shtml
ATO is an Illegal Entity - http://www.itwillpass.com/tax_ato_non_legal_entity.shtml

ATO (Australian Tax Office) Is illegal By Its Own Admission - Lifting The Veil of Deception - http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/130

High Court Transcript - Moeliker v Chapman B8/2000 (17 May 2000)
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/hca/transcripts/2000/B8/1.html

http://www.loveforlife.com.au/files/ATO-illegal%20entity%20by%20it's%20own%20admission-actual%20docs%20to%20prove%20it-1.pdf

http://www.itwillpass.com/tax_ato_non_legal_entity.shtml
http://www.brumbywatchaustralia.com/Principality12.htm
http://www.brumbywatchaustralia.com/Principality40.htm
 
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DEALING WITH THE A.T.O.

19. Will I go onto an ATO hit list if I use this historical and legal knowledge?
*Anyone who has received an amended ATO notice is ALREADY on an ATO hit list.

In fact anyone in any reasonably well paid occupation is already on an ATO hit list. As the time of writing this document, the ATO had publicly attacked footballers, blitzed builders, wiped out a group of publishers, and was attacking people who invested in superannuation schemes, investments in film and television, investors in agriculture research projects, backers of stage shows etc, to name a few targets. About the only people the ATO doesn't have on a hit list are the major multinational companies who pay little or no tax in Australia.

20. But I do my taxation return carefully and absolutely honestly - aren't I safe?
* We wish you were. But the record shows, and every tax accountant knows, that if the ATO decides to audit your affairs they will not accept that you got everything right. In any case the tax laws are so complex and contradictory that if you get something right by one measure it can be made wrong by another tax measure if the ATO decides you have to be punished even if for no reason other than they don't like the way you look. horror stories abound of the various ways in which ATO officers invented faults in order to justify the audit taking place. The sad truth is that even the most honest citizens are not safe when dealing with the ATO.


21. But don't the ATO have incredible powers to investigate and punish?
* In a nutshell, NO! And what's more they never really had these powers. It didn't matter so much when the old Taxation Department was simply an arm of the government, strict but operating very carefully and correctly. However the transition from Taxation Department to Australian Tax Office introduced a new culture where bonuses are paid on the basis of the amount of tax collected. Not all ATO officers are on a bonus but enough are to make putting a return in no better than a lottery - but a lottery you can't win, you can only lose. AND THEY PUT PART OF YOUR LOSS IN THEIR OWN POCKET.


22. But don't they always win in court?
*Not any more. The court system may not be about truth, that disappeared long time ago from the British/Australian system. It is about procedure and precedent and the rules of court and these can be turned against the TO. It is a question of saying to the ATO "forget your rules and play according to ours where the dice aren't loaded your way."


23. Is it that simple as just writing a letter to the ATO and setting out the facts?
* We wish it was but the truth is the lower ranks of the 11,000 tax office employees are deliberately kept in the dark by their superiors otherwise the honest lower rankers would refuse to collect illegal taxes. So the ATO has produced a number of computer generated letters which are used to answer letters from taxpayers on constitutional matters. They are full of legal and historical errors but the bluff often works and if someone fights back they are referred to special sections who know a bit more.

A monster like the ATO doesn't just roll over and die but like all dragons it can be killed and its fire put out. It does take persistence and knowledge about how the dragon lives.

24. But don't people get sent to gaol for tax evasion?
*Tax evasion presumes two conditions
  1. A. Legal taxes
    B. Illegal manoeuvres used to escape the legal taxes
In Australia today the position is totally reversed.
  1. A. The taxes are totally illegal
    B. The best manoeuvres to prevent their collection are 110% legal
In fact the only real effective manoeuvres are 110% legal. Part of the problem so many people now find themselves in is the methods they've used to avoid tax are marginally legal - it's a question of opinion.


25 Then why can't we go to our normal legal advisers for protection?
*If you have honest legal advisers you can. The difficulty is that the average solicitor is part of the legal system and their entire income and status depend on them continuing to support the status quo.
But there is another problem. When most of these lawyers were studying law, they simply accepted the validity of the Constitution without question and now they find it impossible to question the basic law on which their entire career depends. There are a few with intellectual honesty needed to examine the facts regardless of where that leads. If you have one of these lawyers value them highly.


26. What if my legal adviser wants a Q.C's opinion on this?
* Then your legal adviser has no confidence in his own ability to read history.

Opinions are about the meaning of laws but every Q.C's opinion in the world can't change the historical facts. Professor D.P.O'Connell, a world expert on international law explained in International Law Volume 1,. 1970 that at no matter what form a change of sovereignty takes there is a break in legal continuity. The law of one sovereign power comes to an end and the law of the new sovereign power begins.
Sovereignty is a fact which has its own imperatives. And the facts of sovereignty are there to read - in the parliamentary Hansard records of 10th September, 1919, in the Paris newspapers of 28th June and 29 June 1919, in the writings of Australia's official World War One historian Dr C.E.W Bean, in the declaration of the Inter Imperial Relations Committee of 1926, in the speech of King George V accepting the Diplomatic Credentials of Sir Joseph Cooke as Australia's High Commissioner to London and in the Report by the Senate Legal and Constitutional References Committee dated November 1995 on the Commonwealth Power to Make and Implement Treaties as well as major legal texts published 25 years or more ago.
The main concern that most Q.C's reveal in the discussions is that these facts will produce widespread chaos. We believe that most citizens' lives will be relatively unaffected in the short term. The chaos will principally affect lawyers - justice indeed since they've kept everyone else in the dark for years.
Unfortunately hiding the facts is no longer possible. After all the events which are the cause of these problems happened some 80 years ago.

27. What can the A.T.O. do to counter this?
* Nothing. For the first time in its existence the ATO has no defences except for a corrupt legal system. But don't count it simply melt away. There are still over 9 million Australians paying tax and the ATO will take as much from everyone as they can until the day no one will pay them anymore. 28 June 1919 was Australia's day of independence. The day the ATO finally gives up is the date of Australia's freedom.

29. Should I discuss this with my accountant?
* Yes of course. In general it can be presumed that accountants are fully on their client's side but with the position that if they are registered tax agents they will be very careful about their relations with the ATO.

The bottom line is that the constitutional issues will change the emphasis of the work accountants do, shifting away from the purely negative activity of dealing with the ATO into positive protection and promotion of your interest including less restricted advice about investments. They will probably also enjoy no longer having to be the bearers of bad news for their clients unless a business or individual is in trouble for reasons other than taxation.

30. Why should I believe everything in this booklet?
*Without checking you shouldn't. Blind faith is for fools and idiots. But each of the historical facts existed long before we uncovered them and international law wasn't formulated for the ITR's benefit. Use the internet and local libraries. You won't be able to uncover the range of material we have found over 25 years, but you will find enough to convince yourself of the truth. That's what this is all about - just the truth. And as a wise friend of ITR said "The truth eventually exposes itself. Facts can't be kept secret forever."


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The Australian Federal Reserve is next, I am sick of living in a world where I can work half the year to pay tax for government who has sold us out to Foreign Bankers who will destroy our country like they are destroying America as we speak.


I am also sick of having the money I save, being devalued over time, because they operate the biggest counterfieting scheme of all time by printing money out of thin air, and then get us to sign a legally binding contract for a loan, when the banks can effectively print money out of thing air using "Fractional Reserve Banking" - look it up if you don't believe me


We are being sold down the river people, and we don't even realise it...

Do your own research, and get your own legal advise regarding the above, but you will probably wind up knowing more than your accountant and your lawyer...
 
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The ATO is not unconstutional. The Commonwealth has the power to make laws with respect to taxation. A law which gives rise to tax obligations to the Commonwealth is clearly within constitutional power.
The links which you have provided say nothing toward the above. Conspiracy theory elsewhere, please.
Your conspiracy theory websites think that because something does not have a legal persona means it is illegal.
 
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I know.... Let's rebel.... Let's not pay tax :rolleyes:
 
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The ATO is not unconstutional. The Commonwealth has the power to make laws with respect to taxation. A law which gives rise to tax obligations to the Commonwealth is clearly within constitutional power.
The links which you have provided say nothing toward the above. Conspiracy theory elsewhere, please.
Your conspiracy theory websites think that because something does not have a legal persona means it is illegal.
So, who owns the tax office, the Commonwealth of Australia or a private institution?
 
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So, who owns the tax office, the Commonwealth of Australia or a private institution?
The tax office operates as part of the Commonwealth Government Department of Treasury.

Because it is PART of Treasury it is an office not a department.
Treasury being a department are by legislative definition, part of the government public service of the Commonwealth of Australia.

As to ownership, well, if you understand the legal framework that founded Australia you would be aware that Australia (Aboriginies aside unfortunately for them) was claimed in the name of the English monach King George III. All land belonged to the king (or queen) - still does in a way - the terms crown land and real (royal) estate come from that legal precept. Government originally was an arm of the king/queen to help administer the affairs of the king/queen (sometimes referred to as matters of "state"). Our "government" had several ties to the English monarchy up until quite recently. Only one of them has been severed - appeals to the Privvy Council. Our Governor General is still a vestage of royal ownership. Thus we have government being the royal administration system effectively the owner of any government assets is effectively the ruling monarch of England.

Part of this comes back to the issue of Australia being a "constitutional" monarchy rather than a republic (as is the United States of America).

Here in Australia you never really "own" your land - it is merely a "title" allowing you (as a poor serf would have) to till the land and pay homage to the king or queen along with your tithes (better known as taxes).

In short the government taxes you for the priviledge of being a bound slave of the king/queen. Slave? Yes, if you believe you are free try not paying taxes and see how free you *really* are.

"Law is the social embodiment of violence" - Murray N. Rothbard.

Personally I would not worry about the government. Whilst they have the power to lock you up, it is the banks who hold the real power. The governments of the world lost that power two centuries ago.

If you doubt that the banks control things go back and look at the way Ian MacFarlane told off little Johnny when it came to setting interest rates.
 

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