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A truly Christian school...!

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by basilio, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. basilio

    basilio

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    There have been debates in Australia around sex discrimination and in particular whether private schools should have the right to exclude gay teachers or even gay children

    But you can't beat the Yanks for demonstrating how a serious "Christian" school goes about this process.

    Immanuel Christian college has a "parent agreement" posted online that says their policy bans gay students and parents from the school. ..

    "I understand that the school reserves the right, within its sole discretion, to refuse admission to an applicant or to discontinue enrollment of a student if the atmosphere or conduct within a particular home, the activities of a parent or guardian, or the activities of the student are counter to, or are in opposition to, the biblical lifestyle the school teaches," the agreement states.
    'This includes, but is not limited to contumacious behavior, divisive conduct, and participating in, supporting, or condoning sexual immorality, homosexual activity or bi-sexual activity, promoting such practices, or being unable to support the moral principles of the school. (Lev. 20:13 and Romans 1:27.) I acknowledge the importance of a family culture based on biblical principles and embrace biblical family values such as a healthy marriage between one man and one woman. My role as spiritual mentor to my children will be taken seriously."

    What makes this even more interesting is that Karen Pence, wife of the current US Vice President will be teaching at the school.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/15/politics/karen-pence-art-teacher/index.html
     
  2. basilio

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    Immanuel Christian School partners with families to provide Christian education. We believe those who will
    benefit most fromour program know the Lord as personal Savior and desire that their children be educated with a biblical worldview.

    It is our experience that families who do not share a biblical worldview will be
    uncomfortable with the expectations we have and the philosophy we practice. We do not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national or ethnic background. We do, however, attempt to be discerning in the area of Christian belief and practice
     
  3. Darc Knight

    Darc Knight Investor not Trader

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    What's your view on the matter pls Bas.

    I am of the firm belief and opinion similar to @sptrawler whatever that firm belief or opinion maybe.
     
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    If you don't like the rules of the club, don't join the club.

    However, is the school receiving taxpayer money ? If so it should have to conform to the same laws as everyone else.

    It then depends do you extend "club rules" to every other business ?
     
  5. wayneL

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    Could be a clue there in the name of the school...

    What would one expect from, say, Inshallah(sp?) Islamic School?
     
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    I have lots of thoughts about this very prescriptive series of policies for a school.

    1) It is uncomfortably close to the way A Handmaids Tale defines and controls human behaviour. It is interesting to remember that the premise of The Handmaids Tale is the rise of a religious based group to power in the US.

    2) It represents the beliefs of Milke Pence who is a heartbeat or a impeachment away from Presidency of the US. We know he is born again Christian. Spelling out the degree of control this group attempts to establish on it's members doesn't sit well with how Mike Pence would use Presidential power.

    3) I wonder how these rules are implemented and the effect on children and families ? Obviously anyone who is gay or shows any tendency is in the firing line. And looking at the rules that goes for their their family, friends or anyone who just accepts them. It looks far too close to cult like rules and expectations. Of course this would depend on how strictly the rules are enforced but my reading was that the school was playing for keeps.
     
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  7. basilio

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    Aunt Lydia in The Hand Maids Tale.
    Truly Gods work.
     
  8. cynic

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    How exactly,is an insightful work of fiction, conveying clear warning messages about the dangers of unchecked zealotry, comparable to a christian school merely declaring their endorsed values for the benefit of those considering enrolment?
     
  9. fiftyeight

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    Would you care to aid the progression of this discussion by disclosing your understanding of the meaning of the word school?!
     
  10. basilio

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    You want it spelled out Cynic ?
    1) The control of behaviour demanded by the Christian school is, in my view, excessive and very similar to the controls imposed by other religious sects. And it does end badly. That alone gives me concern. Check out this example of another Christian sect that was also very rigid in its interpretations of God Word.

    My life in a religious cult: 'The most dangerous place in the world is the womb of an ungodly woman'
    After her childhood in a secretive cult founded by her grandfather, New Zealand woman Lilia Tarawa risked hellfire and damnation to escape. In this book extract, she shares a slice of her life at Gloriavale Christian Community

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...-in-the-world-is-the-womb-of-an-ungodly-woman

    2) The risk of the US becoming an authoritarian state and using born again Christian values as a model for the community is not farfetched. Donald Trump is already considering invoking a State of Emergency. His VP endorses the zealous principles of born again Christians. The evangelical right is still one of the key supporters of Donald Trump. If you watched that clip the last lines of Auntie Lydia should resonate.

    " I know this must feel very strange. But ordinary is just what you're used to. This may not seem ordinary to you right now but after a time it will. This will become ordinary."
     
  11. wayneL

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    There is a lot of disingenuous conflation there, bas.
     
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    The "control of behaviour" is a very important and noteworthy issue.

    Are you opposed to enforced behaviour control?

    If so, is your opposition absolutely or contextually defined?

    If contextually defined, how did you determine the contexts that render such control permissable?
     
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    In this context I believe, "a place of teaching" is an allowable definition.

    Did something posted (whether by myself or others) to this thread, suggest another definition?
     
  14. fiftyeight

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    No but as you point out in so many threads, we need to define and explain everything before conversation can move on.
     
  15. Darc Knight

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    Wayne, for a Carnivore you certainly like your salads - word salads. Educated people like to operate by the KISS principle and avoid jargon etc. when conversing with the general public.
     
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    A military college or university would qualify ?
     
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    Provided those places are dedicated to the practice of teaching, then yes.
     
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    For a meaningful dialogue to take place, I believe it is important that people speak the same language, so that true communication (as opposed to misunderstandings) can occur.

    Some words do have multiple meanings, at times giving rise to ambiguities, and,on such occasions, seeking clarification, can aid the avoidance of unfortunate misunderstandings.

    In recent years, it is becoming increasingly apparent that some common English words have become subject to unofficial redefinition/s pursuant to the emergence (and/or reemergence) of a number of disturbingly (IMO) fashionable ideologies. This again gives rise to the importance of clarifying what is intended, especially when a person starts expressing in a manner indicative of departure from dictionary definition/s.
     
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    Hey it's not my fault you were circle jerking in the toilet with non cis NPCs during English class Darcy.

    That is just not an argument.

    But In future I will keep it down to monosyllabic Neanderthalese, just so you can keep up. :cool:
     
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    :D Glory to you too WayneK
     
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