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Where is/can Hillary Clinton take US (sic)?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by wayneL, Jul 29, 2016.

  1. wayneL

    wayneL Rotaredom

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    Straight to an Orwellian Hell

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  2. dutchie

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    If Hillary gets in , it will be on the same ticket that Obama did - sentiment.

    (first black, first woman)
     
  3. CanOz

    CanOz Every day above ground is a stellar day!

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    Thats a bit harsh WayneL....He likely has a deal that he had to honor.

    Bernie should have ran on his own ticket as an independent, hindsight is a wonderful thing.
     
  4. Knobby22

    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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  5. CanOz

    CanOz Every day above ground is a stellar day!

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    Yeah but there is also a Green party....so hows that work?
     
  6. luutzu

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    The Green and other Libertarian party would attract enough Sanders and Independent supporters to make a Trump victory more likely every day.
     
  7. Knobby22

    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    If you don't vote for one of the main two then you throw your vote away.
    No preference system there.
     
  8. wayneL

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    Green ideology is authoritarian not libertarian
     
  9. luutzu

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    I think they also have a very minor political party call the "Libertarian Party", not the Aussie Captain Abbott/Turnbull "Liberal" party.

    I've read that a fair number, maybe 25%, of Sanders voters have said they will vote Green; with 50% will block their nose and go to Clinton because they hate Trump more; the other 25% will just stay home.

    The Republicans might have the same ratio, but there doesn't seem to be a third right wing party they'd vote for so they would just turn up and vote Trump because they really don't like Clinton that much.

    More scientific polls are showing Trump ahead nationally, and was either ahead or tie Clinton in the important swing states.

    With all the name recognition and years of "experience", she sure has a con artist failed business idiot giving her a run for her money.
     
  10. Knobby22

    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    According to a think tank, the latest figures, the most recent percentage of new income is that with the improving US economy only 52% of the money goes to the top 1%. Oh that's all right then . Wonder what the figure is for top 3%?

    So Hillary was a little flowery in the speech to make a point and used published (rather than think tank) figures from the previous years showing the top 1% took a larger percentage previously. The point is still true and if that's the best the neocons can come up with then they are in trouble.
    Compared to Trumps outright lies, she is Mother Theresa.
    Seems to be a different truth standard for Trump.

    The point made previously by Buffet that he pays less tax than his secretary despite he does no agressive tax minimsation still holds. The rich 1% have rigged the system.
     
  11. IFocus

    IFocus You are arguing with a Galah

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    Was it Harvard that looked at policy passed over time 90% + driven by corporations etc the rest actual voter groups...........
     
  12. luutzu

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    Not sure if it's the same study you're referring to but a study found that if you're the bottom 90%, whether you like a certain policy or not it doesn't matter - it'll just get pass, or not pass, either way.

    But if you're the top 10%, if you don't like something, it'll never get pass. If you like something, then 66% of the time it'll get pass.
     
  13. DB008

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    Not sure where to put this.

    Hillary or Wikileaks thread...



    Julian Assange: Hacked Emails Include Info On Hillary’s Arming of Jihadists, Including ISIS, in Syria​




     
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    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    It was Government policy.
    To overthrow Syria's Government, started up by Bush and kept going by Obama till the dumclucks realised they were just sending arms to muslim extremists. The US still helps some elements of the resistance. Same story in Libya. That's worked out also! not. The US have really stuffed up and Clinton didn't have the wisdom to go against the hawks.
     
  16. luutzu

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    Yea Bush Jr. and his bosses did plan to liberate a few more Arab states after Iraq, but since Iraq and Afghanistan didn't work out so well...

    With Libya though, I heard from a few different journalists that Hillary was very hawkish on it. She brushed aside the Director of the CIA's concerns about the day after - you know you're war crazy when the CIA chief sounds like a dove next to your ballsy plans; That and after the fall of Libya, her staff were bragging and planning with her about how "the success" of Libya could be use on future campaign for president, to show her skill as liberator against Jr.'s... they kind of quiet that down once Libya goes to heck.
     
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    Like I said before, we are entering levels of propaganda akin to the Cold War or North Korea...


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  19. DB008

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    Wikileaks getting hot under the collar hey...

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