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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by basilio, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. Tisme

    Tisme Apathetic at Best

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    See one of Malcolm's besties has landed a job to head up the USA Manufacturing Council.
     
  2. SirRumpole

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    He's got a better chance there than here.
     
  3. luutzu

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    Trump says US not bound by "one China" policy - ie. don't slap the Chinese in the face on Taiwan.

    Dam, Obama was only pivoting to Asia and China built a handful of military bases offshore. What would they do with Trump kicking the door in like this?
     
  4. moXJO

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    How much of their money comes out of the US. I'd say they would be quietly $hitting themselves. Trade restrictions, tariffs, and taxes are how you slay the dragon, they can bluff and bluster all they like. But when it comes down to it, the fight will be through financial markets.
     
  5. sptrawler

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    Exactly, the U.S needs China's cheap junk, China needs the U.S buying it. We need the Chinese selling it and so it goes around.

    China needs to be told to pull its head in.IMO Trump is doing that.

    Supplying the demand, then withdrawing the demand, when companies have geared up to supply it, is just manipulating markets, which China are experts at. Also they have the perfect political system to support it.

    Which leads back to Australia's problem, of getting fair value for finite resources, the only way is a charge per ton exported.IMO Because China will own the companies removing it, so we have to charge them per ton removed.FFS

    Do any of us, believe China will pay our welfare, when the resources are gone?

    Will China or the U.S buy our manufactured goods, when the resources are gone? I don't think so and I can't think of many goods we manufacture.lol

    The only hope we have, is to charge miners for the material they remove and use that money to develop our infrastructure and economy.IMO

    The way we are going, the resources and wealth will be gone, and we will have nothing to show for it.

    The last thing we need is weak Government, China and the U.S are having a staring match and we are pi$$ing around with gay marriage, whether we should be a republic, if you can call a spade a spade or a digging implement.

    Jeez we are in more $hit than Ned Kelly and we have limp d!cks running the show, what a hoot.

    my first rant, for awhile.lol
     
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    You are starting to sound like a socialist.:rolleyes:

    Either way, you are right.
     
  7. sptrawler

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    It isn't socialism, it is just getting fair value for your product.

    Not some high falutin, quasi expectation, that the people that are b!tch slapping you, will look after you when you have nothing to offer.:D

    I guess it is about self respect, and standing up for your beliefs, like the Brexit.
    The poms didn't fold in either World War, just hope we are made of the same stuff.lol

    Jeez I'd better get off the "red Ned", lol. I just wish someone in politics would grow a pair, Shorten and Turnbull won't and Pauline wants to but can't, lol what a mess.

    On the web today, we seem to be fixated on some lady named Armitage and her underwear. lol Don't you just love it, news at its best. what a hoot.

    we can't discuss the reason that people who are homeless, can afford drugs ? WOW don't say that.
     
  8. SirRumpole

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    Wouldn't be surprised if one of his kids get caught in short selling stock Daddy's about to tweet negatively about.

    I don't remember so man CEOs in the one Cabinet. Guess he's cutting out the middle man with that too.
     
  10. Knobby22

    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    Yes true. Though there was that Vice president under Bush jnr.
     
  11. luutzu

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    Darth Cheney? Yea, look what a couple of CEOs - Defence and Treasury - did to the economy and peace in the world under Jr.

    With Trump, there's about five or six CEO of major corporations in the Cabinet - so far.

    From what I know of US laws and previous CEO appointments, if these guys are confirmed by the Senate - chances are they will - it'll costs the IRS around a couple hundred millions in loss taxes on day one of the Trump admin.

    Each of these CEO have around $100 to $200 million in options and rights and personal holdings. Once they go serve the public, all those have to be sold and put into a "blind" trust. All of it are tax free.

    Sweet ey? Politics mean service, sacrifice, money, more money, power, then more money.
     
  12. Knobby22

    Knobby22 Mmmmmm 2nd breakfast

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    Too true, I can't imagine how so many inflated egos will function together. Reminds me of Enron unfortunately.

    I see this as a great experiment. If it fails we will see an equivalent to Bernie Sanders elected next along with a Democrat party congress and house. If it succeeds then we Trump will go down as one of the greatest presidents ever. it's not a binary choice however. It will probably go down a middle path and half succeed and half fail.
     
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    Julian Assange blew the Russian email hack rumours out of the water. Apparently it was someone close to Hillary that absolutely hates the Clinton's and thinks they are the worst people on the planet.

    News outlets still blaming Russia
     
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    Reminiscent of Team America movie, where celebrity and fantasy outranks ability and reality. Having said that Americans are a strange people who have morphed into the caricatures and cliches of the movies..... many look and behave like cartoons come to life IMO.:D
     
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    Pretty good analogy really, grow up on TV Mickey Mouse, become mickey mouse.
     
  18. moXJO

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    Hillary now is pushing the "It's all Russia's fault" line. Democrats are eating up conspiracy theories like m&m's. Goes to show the left is as stupid as the right.
    She represents all that is evil and wrong with the political system. Trump, all that is wrong with big business. It's like when corrupt and stupid collide.
     
  19. SirRumpole

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    It makes Bernie Sanders look perfectly reasonable doesn't it ?

    :D
     
  20. moXJO

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    He would have won.
    America needed an outsider, but the dems have become too corrupt and bloated to shake the system. Republicans I suspect also knew the damage an outsider would do to their gravy train and tried to resist.
    Next option is to make em fail with the "Rudd option" - work against them behind the scenes and stage leaks.
     
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