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Only one ASF account per person

Discussion in 'Announcements and Site News' started by Joe Blow, Apr 4, 2007.

  1. Joe Blow

    Joe Blow Administrator

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    This new version of the forum software makes it virtually impossible for those operating multiple ASF accounts to escape detection.

    It is clearly stated in the code of conduct that each individual is entitled to one ASF account only. In the few weeks since this new version of the forum software has been installed it has snagged around half a dozen members with two accounts. Needless to say, I am not impressed.

    Up until now I have just suspended one of the two accounts in question. From this point on, I will be getting tougher and suspending both.

    One account per person. No exceptions. If more than one individual in your residence wishes to have an ASF account then you would be well advised to let me know about it.
     
  2. shinobi346

    shinobi346 Well-Known Member

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    Is there a way we can see a list of all banned members? Partly out of interest and also to know which posts to disregard when reading old threads. :)
     
  3. constable

    constable Well-Known Member

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    you mean an asf shame file :D . Well done joe certainly helps to add to asf's credibility.
     
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    just being curious...
    is the latest version of your software THAT powerful? there must be a way to get around. i'm not encouraging anyone to use 2 accounts---not at all, just from the perspective of technical side...
    China has spent billions of bucks trying to prevent its ppl from reading "harmful" news and big-name companies like Cisco and MS helped by selling chinese government billions of dollars of hardwares and softwares. but technically-savvy ppl can still get around.
    there must be a way. i don't have time to find out and i don't need to. but there must be a way. i do believe.

    again i'm not by any means encouraging anyone to use 2 accounts here.
    cheers
     
  5. Joe Blow

    Joe Blow Administrator

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    Shinobi: While I understand your curiosity I don't think it serves any real purpose to list all of ASF's banned members, and it's not an option that this forum software provides (except for moderators and admins). Think of them as ASF's ghosts.... disembodied spirits who once were, but now are no more. :)

    Hissho: While nothing is perfect, the mods and I have been astonished at the ability of this software to indentify those operating multiple accounts. Obviously I'm not prepared to go into too much detail, but in order to fool it you would have to be very clever, computer savvy, and persistent. In the end, why take the risk? Just use one account and avoid any trouble.

    The reason I'm being so firm on this issue is multiple accounts threaten the integrity of ASF. There is no genuine reason for anyone to be operating more than one account. One person, one ASF account, one voice.
     
  6. clowboy

    clowboy Well-Known Member

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    You mean aside from increaseing your chances at winning the stock tipping comp :p
     
  7. chops_a_must

    chops_a_must Printing My Own Money

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    Damn. I was hoping to make fake accounts so I could ramp stocks that don't exist. :p

    Chinpokemon Limited anyone?
     
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    LOL, good to see another fan.
     
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    I strongly believe that perpetrators should be shamed.

    This soft approach and privacy protection is a fertile ground for crooks.

    This is why we have so many snake oil salespeople, so many scams and so many cheats as there is hardly or no punishment.
     
  10. shinobi346

    shinobi346 Well-Known Member

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    Joe Blow, the reason I ask is also a practical one. I wish to know for the same reason why you banned them - credibility. If their posts are still about and I'm reading through old posts then I at least know to disregard those posts made as they were probably done to ramp/drive down the price of a stock. If their posts have been binned then it doesnt matter but may explain if a thread mightn't flow in places.
     
  11. Wysiwyg

    Wysiwyg Everyone wants money

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    I'm not suckin' legumes but if you are on a good thing then there is no need to say...la dee da is goin' to the moon or coo day tar is goin' to hit $200.

    Provide some realistic (which is debatable) information or substantiation and you don't waste your time or anyone elses time.

    THEN you might find that others see the good opportunity too.
     
  12. doctorj

    doctorj Hatchet Moderator

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    Shinobi,
    The Mod team understand your concerns. I'm sure you can understand the potential difficulty a policy of naming and shaming might create. Fortunately, the great majority of people here at ASF do the right thing. The post good research, ask good questions and don't post under multiple aliases. The others that don't play by the rules will disappear in the ether and with them any posts they've made that we feel are manipulative.
     
  13. Joe Blow

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    Some individuals do not appear to be taking me seriously on this issue.

    If you are operating multiple ASF accounts, you WILL be discovered, unless you are running from internet cafe to internet cafe logging into a different account at each one.

    If, for some reason, you have more than one ASF member logging into ASF from the same internet connection you MUST let me know. Please send me a PM with details if this is the case.

    For the last time, this issue is not a joke. Some accounts have already been suspended and I will not hesitate to suspend more. One ASF account per person. Those are the rules and I expect people to abide by them.
     
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    Good to see that this forum is policed well.

    While we are supposed to do our own research and not be carried away by ramping, it would be good to protect newbies who rely more on comments (and ramping).

    I would agree for harsh punishment.

    Why is crime so low in Saudi? because perpetrators get beheaded.
     
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  16. Joe Blow

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    The account 'krisbarry' was suspended in 2005.

    Kris was given a second chance a long time ago... he knows not to push his luck.
     
  17. prawn_86

    prawn_86 Mod: Call me Dendrobranchiata

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    hence the reason why he is probably posting under the STC name. the posts are exactly the same here as hotcopper, as mentioned in the fwl thread
     
  18. moneymajix

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    Re Joe Blow and not naming and shaming.

    I interpret Joe's " no names" attitude in a postive light.

    Naming and shaming can be a malicious exercise. More than that, it is a time-wasting distraction.

    Getting rid of multinickers is important and upholds the integrity of the site, especially as it gets bigger. Congratulations for the improvements.

    In any case, after a while you get to know those posters with worthwhile comments.

    Good Luck.
     
  19. Joe Blow

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    We don't name and shame here. If someone is up to no good and involved in fradulent/misleading behaviour (i.e. multiple accounts etc), all accounts associated with that individual are suspended immediately.

    The mods and I are serious about maintaining the integrity of ASF and we wont hesitate to act if the situation demands it. But at the same time we feel no need to turn that process into a circus.
     
  20. moneymajix

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    Joe,

    Thanks for your response.

    I do have a query in regards to using shared computers, at a library or educational institution, for instance.

    It could look like multinicking if 2 or more ASF posters used computers at the same library. I can't imagine the chances are great but it is possible.


    Question 1:
    Is there grounds for appeal where a mistake could have occurred in identifying a multinicker?
    An innocent person could be suspended.


    Question 2:
    Also, do you have a policy of checking the alleged multinicker posts to see each "personality" is, in fact, posting on the same shares? I guess that would be a double check.


    I know the above scenario is not something likely to happen very often. However, an incorrect suspension would obviously have a negative impact on the individual/s involved. I am thinking, how would you feel if it was, you!


    Thanks in advance.
     
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