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    Default SMSF's allowed to borrow? Impact on property prices??

    Wondering how many SMSF members (and property investors) have come across this article recently in the Bulletin, and what is your reaction?

    DIY funds await green light

    Up until now there has been limited opportunity for DIY Super funds to borrow.

    The $240 Billion of assets accumulated as at 30 June 2007 has largely been done without any leverage, and as a result the average SMSF investment portfolio has limited exposure to direct property (up until now).

    Assuming the legislation is (has been?) passed it is interesting to consider the potential impact on property prices?

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    Thanks for that link. Interesting.
    I'll wait to find out about the lending criteria.
    I'm a bit surprised that this will be allowed given the apparently quite high level of unsophisticated investors setting up SMSF's.

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    Default Re: SMSF's allowed to borrow? Impact on property prices??

    Quote Originally Posted by Julia View Post
    I'm a bit surprised that this will be allowed given the apparently quite high level of unsophisticated investors setting up SMSF's.
    Why surprised...isnt most the the financial advise industry based on people who know what
    there doin taking money from people who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So_Cynical View Post
    Why surprised...isnt most the the financial advise industry based on people who know what
    there doin taking money from people who don't.
    That is .... So Cynical!

    But True!

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    This is the ATO version I just got in my SMSF newsletter. Although the ATO points out it is still before the senate, they seem to me to be pretty sure it will pass. Note the last sentence, "...when the bill becomes law". Apparently the Committe on Economics reccommended it be passed.

    SMSF newsletter - Edition 2

    Investing in instalment warrants
    There have been a number of announcements about superannuation funds investing in instalment warrants. Instalment warrants are investment products that, traditionally, provide an investor with the right, but not the obligation, to buy an underlying asset through the payment of instalments. Such arrangements involve a limited recourse borrowing by the superannuation fund (that is, the fund’s other assets cannot be used to repay the loan).

    Generally, trustees of superannuation funds are not permitted to borrow under current superannuation legislation, the Superannuation Industry Supervision Act 1993, (the SIS Act). As instalment warrants entail a borrowing, both regulators (APRA and the Tax Office) considered this a contravention of the legislation. The Tax Office also determined that an investment by a self managed superannuation fund (SMSF) in an instalment warrant is an in-house asset of the fund under the SIS Act.

    Following industry consultation, the Government is finalising legislation to legitimise investment by superannuation funds in instalment warrants. The Bill is currently being considered in the Senate.

    Under the Bill a superannuation fund trustee will be allowed to borrow money under an instalment warrant arrangement that has the following features:

    1. the borrowing is used to acquire an asset that is held on trust so that the superannuation fund trustee receives a beneficial interest and a right (but not an obligation) to acquire the legal ownership of the asset (or any replacement) through the payment of instalments

    2. the lender’s recourse against the superannuation fund trustee in the event of default on the borrowing and related fees, or the exercise of rights (typically a put option) by the fund trustee, is limited to rights relating to the asset at the time of the action. These rights may include taking possession of, or disposing of, the asset; and

    3. the asset (or any replacement) must be one which the superannuation fund trustee is permitted to acquire and hold directly. The asset may be any asset (eg, real property, works of art in certain circumstances or listed securities) a fund would be permitted to invest in directly. The existing investment restrictions, such as those on in-house assets and acquiring certain assets from a related party of the fund, continue to apply.
    The Bill will also bring about amendments ensuring an investment by a SMSF in an instalment warrant will only be an in-house asset where the underlying asset would itself be an in-house asset if it were held directly.

    Funds that invest in instalment warrants must continue to comply with other legislative requirements.

    As the above provisions are subject to change, SMSF trustees should ensure that they are aware of the requirements when the Bill becomes law.

    Last Modified: Tuesday, 25 September 2007
    http://www.ato.gov.au/super/content.....htm&page=6&H6

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    The instalment warrant facility isn't new. The ATO must be a bit slow with its newsletters. I might be missing something here, but their ruling doesn't appear to include permission to gear into property from within a SMSF
    so I don't really see what has changed.
    I can recall getting a bank produced booklet about self funding instalment warrants more than a year ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julia View Post
    The instalment warrant facility isn't new. The ATO must be a bit slow with its newsletters. I might be missing something here, but their ruling doesn't appear to include permission to gear into property from within a SMSF
    so I don't really see what has changed.
    I can recall getting a bank produced booklet about self funding instalment warrants more than a year ago.
    Hi Julia, I'm still setting mine up, but I heard there was a problem and the ATO was taking action against some, so I'm keen to get a good understanding of this. I have found this official "EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM" of the new laws where chapter 3 seems to spell out the old problem and new remedy.

    Chapter 3
    Investment in instalment warrants by
    superannuation funds


    Context of amendments

    3.6 Regulation 13.14 of the Superannuation Industry (Supervision)
    Regulations 1994 states that a trustee must not give a charge over, or in
    relation to, an asset of the fund. This does not apply in relation to certain
    charges specified in Regulation 13.15A, however these relate only to
    options and futures contracts provided the superannuation fund meets
    certain conditions.

    3.7 Over a number of years instalment warrants have been marketed
    to superannuation funds, particularly self-managed superannuation funds.
    Instalment warrants are a derivative-based investment product, in that
    they derive their value from the underlying asset. Traditionally, such
    arrangements provide the investor with the right, but not the obligation, to
    buy the underlying asset through the payment of instalments. Investors in
    instalment warrants have a beneficial interest in the underlying asset,
    subject to a security interest held by the issuer that secures the payment of
    later instalments. Once the investor has made the first instalment they are
    likely to be entitled to income from the underlying asset (eg, dividends
    from shares).

    3.8 The Commissioner of Taxation (Commissioner) (responsible for
    regulating self-managed superannuation funds) and the Australian
    Prudential Regulation Authority (APRA) (responsible for regulating other
    superannuation funds) have come to the view that these arrangements
    constitute a borrowing for the purposes of section 67 of the
    Superannuation Industry (Supervision) Act 1993.

    3.9 The Commissioner has also determined that an investment by a
    self-managed superannuation fund in an instalment warrant is an in-house
    asset of the fund under section 71 of the Superannuation Industry
    (Supervision) Act 1993.

    3.10 The Government has decided to legislate to legitimise
    investment by superannuation funds in instalment warrants. The precise
    scope of this measure has been determined following consultation with
    industry. This Schedule gives effect to that decision.

    3.11 Funds that invest in instalment warrants must continue to
    comply with other legislative requirements. Furthermore, fund trustees
    are still required to demonstrate the appropriateness of including
    instalment warrants in their investment strategy.

    Summary of new law

    3.12 An exception to the prohibition on borrowing in section 67 of
    the Superannuation Industry (Supervision) Act 1993 will allow a
    superannuation fund trustee to borrow money in accordance with an
    arrangement that has the following features:
    • the borrowing is used to acquire an asset that is held on trust
    so that the superannuation fund trustee receives a beneficial
    interest and a right to acquire the legal ownership of the asset
    (or any replacement) through the payment of instalments;
    • the lender’s recourse against the superannuation fund trustee
    in the event of default on the borrowing and related fees, or
    the exercise of rights by the fund trustee, is limited to rights
    relating to the asset; and
    • the asset (or any replacement) must be one which the
    superannuation fund trustee is permitted to acquire and hold
    directly
    .
    3.13 In addition, the in-house assets rules are amended to provide that
    an investment in a related trust forming part of an instalment warrant
    arrangement which meets the requirements of the borrowing exception
    will only be an in-house asset where the underlying asset would itself be
    an in-house asset of the fund if it were held directly.

    Comparison of key features of new law and current law

    New law
    Subsection 67(4A) of the
    Superannuation Industry (Supervision)
    Act 1993 will provide an exception to
    the borrowing prohibition for
    borrowings that meet certain conditions
    commonly found in instalment warrant
    arrangements.

    Current law
    Section 67 of the Superannuation
    Industry (Supervision) Act 1993
    prohibits superannuation fund
    trustees from borrowing money
    except in limited circumstances,
    primarily related to short-term
    liquidity.

    New law
    Subsections 71(8) and (9) of the
    Superannuation Industry (Supervision)
    Act 1993 will provide that an
    investment in a related trust forming
    part of an instalment warrant
    arrangement which meets the
    requirements of the borrowing
    exception will only be an in-house
    asset where the underlying asset would
    itself be an in-house asset of the fund if
    it were held directly.

    Current Law
    Section 71 of the Superannuation
    Industry (Supervision) Act 1993
    defines ‘in-house assets’ to include
    an investment in a related trust of the
    fund.
    A detailed explanation and example are provided at; http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/...d/21060712.pdf

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    I vaguely recall some ATO ruling whereby you can invest super assets into CFDs, so you have almost the same effective exposure as having a margin loan. Doesn't work for property investments though, because there is no equivalent to CFDs.

    Didn't pay much attention to it, so I probably misunderstood it or something

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    Hi Whiskers,

    Thanks for quoting the actual rulings. How I hate legalspeak!
    That appears to confirm that it's simply about instalment warrants so I can't see where there's any suggestion of SF's being permitted to borrow to buy property, get margin loans etc.as suggested in compareSMSF's original post.

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    ** Bump **

    Scale new heights with rule change

    Just the start of an avalanche of new (manistream) products to hit the market for SMSFs targeted at gearing into property.

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    Hi

    The ability of a SMSF to borrow money to buy property will be through instalment warrants, I understand. So, it will be a little different than normal property transaction.

    I think that you will find that we will all be bombarded with information (marketing) in the coming months.

    Have fun

    Dale

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    Yes its official and has been available since 30th Sept.

    The deposit is set-up as an internal Instalment warrant within the Fund. The loan is then made with the SM Super Fund.

    Here are some Tremendous Benefits.
    (1) 10% Capital Gains Tax if held for 12 mths or more.
    (2) Maximum of 15% tax on Rental income.

    Affordability
    Loan can be funded from Tennant rental,Employer Contributions,Salary Sacrifice,and personal Contributions and any Government contributions applicable.
    Effectively your PERSONAL borrowing capacity wont be affected as the SMSF is a separate entity.Great news for those of us investing in other areas and with regard to business loans etc.

    There are rules and a normal housing loan will not apply.
    So a good relationship with a savvy Mortgage Broker and an experienced SMSF Accountant are a must.

    This is tremendous news for those of us actively involved in property and music to the ears of those who could now be in the position to take advantage of their previously un touchable Super hoard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    Yes its official and has been available since 30th Sept.

    The deposit is set-up as an internal Instalment warrant within the Fund. The loan is then made with the SM Super Fund.

    Here are some Tremendous Benefits.
    (1) 10% Capital Gains Tax if held for 12 mths or more.
    (2) Maximum of 15% tax on Rental income.

    Affordability
    Loan can be funded from Tennant rental,Employer Contributions,Salary Sacrifice,and personal Contributions and any Government contributions applicable.
    Effectively your PERSONAL borrowing capacity wont be affected as the SMSF is a separate entity.Great news for those of us investing in other areas and with regard to business loans etc.

    There are rules and a normal housing loan will not apply.
    So a good relationship with a savvy Mortgage Broker and an experienced SMSF Accountant are a must.

    This is tremendous news for those of us actively involved in property and music to the ears of those who could now be in the position to take advantage of their previously un touchable Super hoard!
    Tech, do you have a link to some more information on this. Must say that it seems like there could be a bit of potential in it

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    Got it from an article in "The Australian Property Investor" December issue.(Page 20)
    Written by Pat Mannix a CPA with Guntherum-Goss& Associates in Victoria.
    I had a look on their website www.guntherumgoss.com but couldn't find anything there directly related to it.

    I'm sure there is and will be a few doing a BIG KEV on this,really exciting.
    The implication for individuals as well as the "Floundering"
    Housing market over the next 3 or so years and beyond is tremendous.

    It could have the same impact on housing as Compulsory Super had on the stock market.There will be those taking advantage of the rental squeeze Australia wide,holding for longer periods and benefiting massively in the long-term.

    All of a sudden Joe average who has a reasonable super fund of OVER $120,000 can turn to a SMSF set-up and become involved in the best vehicle available for long-term wealth creation.

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    cheers tech.

    Will go and see if I can find some info on it

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    There are several "strategies" currently being spruiked by the usual suspects. Here's a sample:

    "If you want real estate but don't have enough money in your super to buy it, you can now use an instalment warrant.

    "Over time, you buy the investment outright with salary sacrifice and the super guarantee contributions."

    The analysis I have seen on this is "be very wary!" Apparently this was a decision made by a junior minister in the previous government and was very much opposed by the relevant bureaucrats.

    The Assistant Commissioner for Superannuation of the ATO, Ian Read, has said the following:

    "The use of instalment warrants by a SMSF in a way that constitutes a breach of the superannuation laws is on our radar for 2007-2008."

    Tom R

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    If greedy superannuants want to borrow money to gamble on the property bubble, let them. They've already lost billions of dollars on the stock market this year, why should they stop there?

    It won't affect property prices in the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoa View Post
    It won't affect property prices in the long term.
    I think it will affect price by preventing it from plummeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    I think it will affect price by preventing it from plummeting.
    You think that blowing more borrowed money into the bubble will stop it from bursting?

    I think than an infusion of more debt would have exactly the opposite affect.

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    Surely, if catastrophic downward pressure prevails, no amount of money is going to hold prices up, but when super money can absorb perceived glut, at least in short to medium term we are out of the woods.

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