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# Thread: TLS - Telstra Corporation

1. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by McLovin
It's ex a 14c dividend today.
Originally Posted by Boggo
Its within a couple of cents of where it should be MrBurns.

14 cent dividend fully franked = 14 + (14x30%= 4.2) = 18.2 cents.

Each TLS share is worth 18.2 cents less than what they were worth on Friday
Thanks guys, I should take a course.

2. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by Boggo
Its within a couple of cents of where it should be MrBurns.

14 cent dividend fully franked = 14 + (14x30%= 4.2) = 18.2 cents.

Each TLS share is worth 18.2 cents less than what they were worth on Friday
I think it's 14 / 0.7 = 20 cents. Which is exactly what it fell today. Cheers.

3. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by Vesupria
I think it's 14 / 0.7 = 20 cents. Which is exactly what it fell today. Cheers.
Why 0.7, as a famous politician once said "please explain"

Is that the accounting method ?

4. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by Boggo
Why 0.7, as a famous politician once said "please explain"

Is that the accounting method ?
Companies pay 30% of tax as you know. So 1 - 0.3 = 0.7. To get back to the gross figure you divide by 0.7.

Hope this helps?

5. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

The 14/07 represents the formula for calculating the div plus franking. The div is fully franked at 30% paying \$0.14. Divide \$0.14 by .70 (70%) = .02 and multiply by 10 (100%) = \$0.20c.

6. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by Vesupria
Companies pay 30% of tax as you know. So 1 - 0.3 = 0.7. To get back to the gross figure you divide by 0.7.

Hope this helps?
Yes, I've always just taken 30% of the actual div and added it

Just saw the end of the Ch 7 news where they were commenting on individual stocks, their comment on TLS was "and Telstra had a day they would like to forget".

Kochie will probably tell us that it is a bargain at these prices tomorrow

7. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by Boggo
Yes, I've always just taken 30% of the actual div and added it

Just saw the end of the Ch 7 news where they were commenting on individual stocks, their comment on TLS was "and Telstra had a day they would like to forget".

Kochie will probably tell us that it is a bargain at these prices tomorrow
I'm sick of looking at his bald patch when he tries to simulate talking to the characters from comsec of a morning. He should stay at the desk and cross to the indicators rather than show them to us in a reduced format with him standing next to them looking like a boof head.

8. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by nulla nulla
I'm sick of looking at his bald patch when he tries to simulate talking to the characters from comsec of a morning. He should stay at the desk and cross to the indicators rather than show them to us in a reduced format with him standing next to them looking like a boof head.
Couldn't be any worse than listening to guys like John Noonan from Thomson Reuters every morning on SKY Business.

9. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by Vesupria
Couldn't be any worse than listening to guys like John Noonan from Thomson Reuters every morning on SKY Business.
There was a bloke on Sky Business a few months ago who kept confusing return on equity. This went of for a few days. He was basically using dividend yield to explain why the banks weren't as profitable because "their return on equity is only about 7%".

10. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by McLovin
There was a bloke on Sky Business a few months ago who kept confusing return on equity. This went of for a few days. He was basically using dividend yield to explain why the banks weren't as profitable because "their return on equity is only about 7%".
Fantastic way of gauging sentiment though for traders... the "expert" guests love saying one thing then saying the opposite three weeks later (as if no one would remember). Maybe it's just me that notices.

11. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by Vesupria
Fantastic way of gauging sentiment though for traders... the "expert" guests love saying one thing then saying the opposite three weeks later (as if no one would remember). Maybe it's just me that notices.
I've noticed it. The short-termism on Sky Business is without equal. It will go from the "end of days" on Monday to raging bull market by Friday. It is entertainment though, afterall.

12. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by McLovin
I've noticed it. The short-termism on Sky Business is without equal. It will go from the "end of days" on Monday to raging bull market by Friday. It is entertainment though, afterall.
From their perspective though they have to talk about somehting. Same as the mainstream newspapers. You cant just say "it's quiet today and no data so lets come back tomorrow"

13. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by prawn_86
From their perspective though they have to talk about somehting. Same as the mainstream newspapers. You cant just say "it's quiet today and no data so lets come back tomorrow"
The same silliness applies prior to every time the Reserve Bank is about to meet to pronounce on interest rates.
For days before, we have every insignificant economist in Australia hitting the airwaves with their opinions about what the decision will be and why. At least it's funny when when 95% of them get it wrong.

14. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Telstra set to buy Adam Internet which is an SA mainstay in the IT area with great internet, service and data centres. Telstra planning to operate it as stand-alone but im sure some Adam customers wont be happy.

Deal needs ACCC approval

15. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Well I just bought in, I think the price will waver up and down but keep crawling in an upward direction.
Telstra are almost a monopoly really and seems to be well run.

16. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by MrBurns
Well I just bought in, I think the price will waver up and down but keep crawling in an upward direction.
Telstra are almost a monopoly really and seems to be well run.
My way of trading TLS (and similiar stocks) is via instalment warrants, usually after it goes ex and then either hold and collect the next dividend or ride the run up to just before the next dividend, sell and then re-enter after it goes ex.

The advantage with the warrants on TLS is that you get just over 2x div for same dollar cost as one underlying share, same calcs apply to value increase minus decay.
I am currently long on TLSIOI as of 21st Aug. Just another way of extracting some \$\$ from a slow but steadily moving stock.

17. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Finally, after the breakout of the resistance 3.6, the stock has recovered zone 4.
If he can keep this area, the next targets are about 4.35 and about 4.86.

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18. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by starman45
Finally, after the breakout of the resistance 3.6, the stock has recovered zone 4.
If he can keep this area, the next targets are about 4.35 and about 4.86.

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Suspect you might be right, pessimism seems to have died away but we'll soon see.

Also interest rates might fall again so that would keep it moving up.

19. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by MrBurns
Suspect you might be right, pessimism seems to have died away but we'll soon see.

Also interest rates might fall again so that would keep it moving up.
Well that was short lived, pessimisim is back.

But will TLS hold as it's a defensive stock or will it fall like the others ?

We'll see.

20. ## Re: TLS - Telstra Corporation

Originally Posted by MrBurns
Well that was short lived, pessimisim is back.

But will TLS hold as it's a defensive stock or will it fall like the others ?

We'll see.
Still trending up at this time Mr B - even if slowly.

Rick