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    Kevin Rudd is going to save the world from ruin.

    Back in June 23 2010, when Rudd was "STABBED" in the back by Julia Gillard, my own belief at the time was, and I did post it somewhere on the ASF, the event was well engineered to release Rudd as Prime Minister to pursue his ambitions for the UN Secretary Generals top job.....Had he resigned as Prime Minister it would have looked too obvious.....so he was disposed in what looked like an ugly scene...Gillard then appoints Rudd as the new Foreign Minister.....Good move for Rudd.

    Ban-ki-Moon's term in office was due to expire in December 2012...Kevin Rudd needed 18 months flipping around the world at tax payers expense to popularize himself with the great world leaders.....He becomes a renowned figure in every country he visits..."my names Kevin and want to save the world from ruin"....He probably traveled more than any other Australian Foreign Minister.....Ah!! but alas, it all came unstuck when Ban-ki-Moon ( a renowned Greenie), unknown to Kevin Rudd at the time, decided to run for another 5 year term and was duly reappointed......It was not long after December 2012 when Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister, Rudd returns to the back bench to watch Gillard's popularity plummet....His words at the time were "I will not challenge Gillard as the leader of the Labor Party, I back her 100%".....but there was a challenge set up by Simon Crean and Rudd chickened out due to lacking in numbers.....But as time went on and Gillards popularity continued to fall, Rudd made his move to save some of the furniture as the saying goes......He did succeed to a point at the 2013 election but not long after he resigns as opposition leader, goes to the back bench and then resigns from parliament altogether and creates a bi-election a few weeks after.

    To the best of my knowledge, Rudd is still a member of the UN Climate Change Committee and hoping for a leg up to greater ambitions......The UN Secretary Generals position will once again become vacant at the end of 2017.....we might say that is over 2.5 years away, but, Rudd will need that time to again establish himself amongst some new world leaders.....he is quietly traveling around the world without much media attention and will no doubt increase his activities in the months ahead.

    Bob Carr this week has broken the ice or perhaps spilled the beans on Rudd's second attempt to become the UN Secretary General....l wish him luck with his ambitions but am not sure whether his popularity around the world is all that great...Only time will tell.....I have yet to do some research on when and how the appointment is made before the present Secretary General stands down.....I believe 2 x 5 year terms are the limit.

    It will be interesting to follow how this all unfolds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by noco View Post
    Kevin Rudd is going to save the world from ruin.

    Back in June 23 2010, when Rudd was "STABBED" in the back by Julia Gillard, my own belief at the time was, and I did post it somewhere on the ASF, the event was well engineered to release Rudd as Prime Minister to pursue his ambitions for the UN Secretary Generals top job.....Had he resigned as Prime Minister it would have looked too obvious.....so he was disposed in what looked like an ugly scene...Gillard then appoints Rudd as the new Foreign Minister.....Good move for Rudd.

    Ban-ki-Moon's term in office was due to expire in December 2012...Kevin Rudd needed 18 months flipping around the world at tax payers expense to popularize himself with the great world leaders.....He becomes a renowned figure in every country he visits..."my names Kevin and want to save the world from ruin"....He probably traveled more than any other Australian Foreign Minister.....Ah!! but alas, it all came unstuck when Ban-ki-Moon ( a renowned Greenie), unknown to Kevin Rudd at the time, decided to run for another 5 year term and was duly reappointed......It was not long after December 2012 when Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister, Rudd returns to the back bench to watch Gillard's popularity plummet....His words at the time were "I will not challenge Gillard as the leader of the Labor Party, I back her 100%".....but there was a challenge set up by Simon Crean and Rudd chickened out due to lacking in numbers.....But as time went on and Gillards popularity continued to fall, Rudd made his move to save some of the furniture as the saying goes......He did succeed to a point at the 2013 election but not long after he resigns as opposition leader, goes to the back bench and then resigns from parliament altogether and creates a bi-election a few weeks after.

    To the best of my knowledge, Rudd is still a member of the UN Climate Change Committee and hoping for a leg up to greater ambitions......The UN Secretary Generals position will once again become vacant at the end of 2017.....we might say that is over 2.5 years away, but, Rudd will need that time to again establish himself amongst some new world leaders.....he is quietly traveling around the world without much media attention and will no doubt increase his activities in the months ahead.

    Bob Carr this week has broken the ice or perhaps spilled the beans on Rudd's second attempt to become the UN Secretary General....l wish him luck with his ambitions but am not sure whether his popularity around the world is all that great...Only time will tell.....I have yet to do some research on when and how the appointment is made before the present Secretary General stands down.....I believe 2 x 5 year terms are the limit.

    It will be interesting to follow how this all unfolds.


    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1226890042244
    I do stand correction on the dates I previously quoted. The link below explains it more precisely.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secreta...United_Nations

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    The ultimate standard in cryogenic freeze will be Kevin Rudd Secure(TM).

    That though is perhaps as elusive as immortality.
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    Default Re: Kevin Rudd : The next UN Secretary General.

    Happily, the sideshow in Australian politics that was Kevin Rudd, P.M. is over, and the reviews are well and truly in:
    1. Mr Rudd was a complete failure as a leader. While I am not one to dismiss the Rudd government per se as a failure, it successes such as they were, owed nothing to the leader.
    2. Even Mr Rudd's most persevering supporters implicitly acknowledged that his one and only ability was to perform as figurehead of an election campaign, in other words, as a frontman for ads and sound-bites

    It remains in the realm of possibility that Mr Rudd will somehow reinvent himself - after all, Rudd the campaign performer was very much a carefully planned, long practised career move. Odds are against it, obviously. The chances of his next step being a meaningful role in the U.N. is 0%.

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    Default Re: Kevin Rudd : The next UN Secretary General.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purple XS2 View Post
    Happily, the sideshow in Australian politics that was Kevin Rudd, P.M. is over, and the reviews are well and truly in:
    1. Mr Rudd was a complete failure as a leader. While I am not one to dismiss the Rudd government per se as a failure, it successes such as they were, owed nothing to the leader.
    2. Even Mr Rudd's most persevering supporters implicitly acknowledged that his one and only ability was to perform as figurehead of an election campaign, in other words, as a frontman for ads and sound-bites

    It remains in the realm of possibility that Mr Rudd will somehow reinvent himself - after all, Rudd the campaign performer was very much a carefully planned, long practised career move. Odds are against it, obviously. The chances of his next step being a meaningful role in the U.N. is 0%.

    Abandon thread ...
    You may well be right with Rudd's 0% chances.....He may also curse Carr for trying to promote him.

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    I thought the UN was trying to build up its pathetic credibility, not completely destroy it.

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    Default Re: Kevin Rudd : The next UN Secretary General.

    According to this link, Rudd's chances of the top job is virtually zero.

    The UN General Assembly appoints the secretary general on the recommendation of the Security Council.

    The five permanent Security Council members - France, Britain, China, Russia and the US - have the power to veto candidates.

    A spokeswoman for Mr Rudd said the appointments for UN secretary general are made on a cyclical geographical basis and the next one would come from eastern Europe.

    "Last time I looked, Australia was not in Eastern Europe," she said.

    "For those reasons, Mr Rudd is not a candidate."

    AAP

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...#ixzz2zQbXu0VZ




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    Default Kevin Rudd : New UN Secretary General

    Kevin Rudd has applied for the job he set out to get in 2010....The United Nations Secretary General.

    I have always maintained Rudd was "knifed" in the back as a well laid out plan for him to become Foreign Minister...As Foreign Minister it allowed him to travel the world to meet foreign dignitaries to become well known as a noteworthy person....Rudd, as Prime Minister, would have been restricted in any attempt had he remained as Prime Minister.... Ban-Ki-moon was due to terminate his 5 years at the end of 2012, half way through Rudd's term as Prime Minister but BKM put a spoke in Kevin's wheel and decided to seek another 5 years taking him to 2017.

    Ban-Ki-moon was South Korea's Foreign Minister and traveled the world for nearly 2 years to become well known...Kevin Rudd tried to emulate this same procedure at tax payers expense....In the meantime he settled for a position on the UN Climate Change committee.

    The next UN Secretary General is due to be selected from a European Country so Rudd's chances are very slim indeed.

    Should he be successful, I can just imagine his opening address......"I am Kevin Rudd from Oztralia and I am here to save the world".






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    Quote Originally Posted by noco View Post
    Kevin Rudd has applied for the job he set out to get in 2010....The United Nations Secretary General.

    I have always maintained Rudd was "knifed" in the back as a well laid out plan for him to become Foreign Minister...As Foreign Minister it allowed him to travel the world to meet foreign dignitaries to become well known as a noteworthy person....Rudd, as Prime Minister, would have been restricted in any attempt had he remained as Prime Minister.... Ban-Ki-moon was due to terminate his 5 years at the end of 2012, half way through Rudd's term as Prime Minister but BKM put a spoke in Kevin's wheel and decided to seek another 5 years taking him to 2017.

    Ban-Ki-moon was South Korea's Foreign Minister and traveled the world for nearly 2 years to become well known...Kevin Rudd tried to emulate this same procedure at tax payers expense....In the meantime he settled for a position on the UN Climate Change committee.

    The next UN Secretary General is due to be selected from a European Country so Rudd's chances are very slim indeed.

    Should he be successful, I can just imagine his opening address......"I am Kevin Rudd from Oztralia and I am here to save the world".






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    As much as he grates many of us Noco, Kevin is a consummate public servant and would probably be a very good fit for the role. There is no denying he has a flair for international politics and he demonstrates a remarkable zeal.

    Take away the petty party political bias and view him as someone passionate for the welfare of others, the innocence of youth and he wouldn't make a good Catholic Priest, Bond$ marketing manager or Wallaby Board maestro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tisme View Post
    As much as he grates many of us Noco, Kevin is a consummate public servant and would probably be a very good fit for the role. There is no denying he has a flair for international politics and he demonstrates a remarkable zeal.

    Take away the petty party political bias and view him as someone passionate for the welfare of others, the innocence of youth and he wouldn't make a good Catholic Priest, Bond$ marketing manager or Wallaby Board maestro.
    Kevin Rudd is a 'show pony' and only thinks of one thing and that is Kevin Rudd.

    Can you imagine him strutting over to the middle and grabbing those ISIl terrorists and saying, now look here you naughty boys, start behaving your selves or else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noco View Post
    Kevin Rudd is a 'show pony' and only thinks of one thing and that is Kevin Rudd.

    Can you imagine him strutting over to the middle and grabbing those ISIl terrorists and saying, now look here you naughty boys, start behaving your selves or else.
    Yes and yes. He's not someone I would have over for drinks with company in tow. One on one though .... enjoyable and very blokey.
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    Andrew Bolt is spot on...Kevin Rudd wants to save the world ...I don't think Rudd really wanted us to know of his application in case he failed but somebody has leaked it.

    But is he popular enough with the countries who can veto his drive into the UN top job.

    Russia, America, China, Brittain and France.

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    I really don't know why anyone would want that job anyway. No one listens to what the Sec.Gen says, the UN is all about maintaining the power bloc status quo, not about doing anything meaningful and beneficial for the planet. They can't even agree to do anything about climate change even though most countries admit it exists, albeit reluctantly.

    As far as I can recall , no one has come out of that job achieving anything worthwhile, and that includes getting people to remember their names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRumpole View Post
    I really don't know why anyone would want that job anyway. No one listens to what the Sec.Gen says, the UN is all about maintaining the power bloc status quo, not about doing anything meaningful and beneficial for the planet. They can't even agree to do anything about climate change even though most countries admit it exists, albeit reluctantly.

    As far as I can recall , no one has come out of that job achieving anything worthwhile, and that includes getting people to remember their names.
    Yes Rumpy, you are right.....the UN is as weak as pi$$.

    The UN is full of Greenies including Ban-Ki-moon...Their current aim is for World Government and they have no hope in hell of ever achieving it.

    Kevin is Kevin and he wants to become a renowned World wide figure.....He stuffed up Australia and he would probably do the same World wide....He certainly is not popular with China and Indonesia.

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    Is he or isn't or isn't he running for the UNSG?...That is the burning question.....Some say no.....Beasley says he is.

    Maybe he is waiting to see if someone in the European community wants the job, if not, our Kevvie will be there with knobs on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by noco View Post
    Is he or isn't or isn't he running for the UNSG?...That is the burning question.....Some say no.....Beasley says he is.

    Maybe he is waiting to see if someone in the European community wants the job, if not, our Kevvie will be there with knobs on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tisme View Post
    If you were listening to 612 yesterday you would know the burning answer.
    Lets wait and see the final outcome.

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    Ah yes, Kevvie is still feeling his way to the UN top job but the Chinese may block his chances...I don't think he is very popular with the Chinese and they well be the ****** in the wood pile to block his chances.


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    Our Kevvie 007 still has his eyes on the top UN job.

    I stand by my post #1 whereby the demise of Kevin Rudd by Julia Gillard was well engineered to release him from the Prime Ministers job at the time to establish himself in world circles in his position as Foreign Minister, but it all came unstuck when Ban-Ki-Moon decided to seek another term....The rest is history


    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...f4950bf599fb54



    Tony Abbott’s demise opens door to UN top job for Kevin Rudd

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    Former PM Kevin Rudd’s chances of becoming UN secretary-general have improved after the departure of Tony Abbott.

    Kevin Rudd’s chances of getting Australian government support for a campaign to become the UN secretary-general have improved with the removal of Tony Abbott as Liberal leader.

    As prime minister, Mr Abbott was totally opposed to Australia lending its support to his predecessor’s efforts to become UN secretary-general when Ban Ki-moon’s term expires in 2017.

    Speculation in diplomatic *circles that Mr Rudd is positioning for the UN post has increased following Mr Abbott’s demise and a front-cover special on Mr Rudd in the US-based Christian Science Monitor, which praised his analysis of relations between the US and China, and talked about the UN job.

    Australia has also announced its intention to compete for a seat on the UN Human Rights *Council for 2018-20 after completing its temporary stint on the UN Security Council.

    When he was prime minister, Mr Abbott made it clear he would support former New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark, who has announced she is running for the post and is working at the UN, if the choice turned to our region.

    In February, Julie Bishop left open the option of Australia backing Mr Rudd in a campaign to become UN secretary-general if he nominated. The Foreign Minister said at a press conference in New Zealand that if an Australian were to nominate for the position, the government’s support would *depend on who that was. The Foreign Minister, who is in New York to represent Australia at the leaders’ summit of the UN General Assembly, then said Australia would make a decision on who to support closer to the time for the change.

    Mrs Clark, who was Labour prime minister from 1999 to 2008, has announced she will run for the UN post, and she is being backed by the New Zealand government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noco View Post
    Our Kevvie 007 still has his eyes on the top UN job.

    I stand by my post #1 whereby the demise of Kevin Rudd by Julia Gillard was well engineered to release him from the Prime Ministers job at the time to establish himself in world circles in his position as Foreign Minister, but it all came unstuck when Ban-Ki-Moon decided to seek another term....The rest is history


    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...f4950bf599fb54
    If he had eyes on the job at the time, wouldn't it have been better for him to resign gracefully rather than suffer the ignominy of being deposed and then coming back ?

    Really, matey your tin hat has a few holes methinks !

    Anyway I'm not sure he has all that much chance. Australia is probably seen as being too aligned with the US, and the majority of the UN don't trust the US.



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