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    Default Re: Trying to understand market logic - why would this stock fall (GRY)?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    No different.
    If gold was powering then so would the stock after the announcement.
    All related.
    As is buy the rumour
    How is it all related ... the smart money doesn't want this stock to rise??

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    Quote Originally Posted by burglar View Post
    How is it all related ... the smart money doesn't want this stock to rise??
    You know this how?
    For what purpose for the smart money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    You know this how?
    For what purpose for the smart money?
    If the smart money wants it rise, guess what.
    It rises.
    Only in this case someone forgot the baking powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    No different.
    If gold was powering then so would the stock after the announcement.
    All related.
    As is buy the rumour
    And today we see exactly that!

    Quote Originally Posted by burglar View Post
    How is it all related ... the smart money doesn't want this stock to rise??
    So why is it up 7.5%?
    Could it just be that Gold was well up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    And today we see exactly that!



    So why is it up 7.5%?
    Could it just be that Gold was well up??
    When I first began, I had the notion that announcements were key!
    I thought to watch the share price action as a result of announcements.

    To my surprise, the share price action was often different to what I expected.


    What I have concluded is that the announcement is not key afterall.

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    Default Re: Trying to understand market logic - why would this stock fall (GRY)?

    Quote Originally Posted by burglar View Post
    When I first began, I had the notion that announcements were key!
    I thought to watch the share price action as a result of announcements.

    To my surprise, the share price action was often different to what I expected.


    What I have concluded is that the announcement is not key afterall.
    In your experience, what is key?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
    In your experience, what is key?
    Have you yet decided if you want to be an investor or a trader?

    Big difference ...
    As an investor you buy on the value/growth of a company.
    An announcement should be a catalyst or trigger.

    As a trader you buy on a pattern (human behaviour) in Share Price Action.
    No announcement required!

    Hence the surprise!!
    So in answer to your question:
    Investors should find out about traders and how much influence they have!

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    Default Re: Trying to understand market logic - why would this stock fall (GRY)?

    Quote Originally Posted by burglar View Post
    Have you yet decided if you want to be an investor or a trader?

    Big difference ...
    As an investor you buy on the value/growth of a company.
    An announcement should be a catalyst or trigger.

    As a trader you buy on a pattern (human behaviour) in Share Price Action.
    No announcement required!

    Hence the surprise!!
    So in answer to your question:
    Investors should find out about traders and how much influence they have!
    Thanks for the above, puts things into perspective. My goal is to be a trader - and although I have spent the last couple of months reading heaps of books and online resources I still don't feel even remotely confident about jumping in just yet to try it in real life - the markets just seem way to bearish and volatile at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    And today we see exactly that!



    So why is it up 7.5%?
    Could it just be that Gold was well up??
    Trouble with forums. I was still in yesterday, whilst you are abreast of today's action.
    Now up with GRY but I still have to research price of gold.

    How do you find the time?
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    Default Re: Trying to understand market logic - why would this stock fall (GRY)?

    Quote Originally Posted by burglar View Post
    Trouble with forums. I was still in yesterday, whilst you are abreast of today's action.
    Now up with GRY but I still have to research price of gold.

    How do you find the time?
    burglar seriously.

    The Price of the underlying is all important and yet somewhat irrelevant. as are most announcements when taken as singularity's...announcements should be looked at as pages of a book, telling the story of XYZ...and then there's the bigger narrative of sentiment.

    GRY is an empty book, no content just a nice back cover write up that shows some potential...and when you look inside you see that there's nothing there, its a work in progress.
    Statistics: 114 Closed Trades since July 07, Winning Trades: 93, Losing Trades: 21, Expectancy/$1 Risked: $0.65

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    Quote Originally Posted by So_Cynical View Post
    burglar seriously.

    The Price of the underlying is all important and yet somewhat irrelevant. as are most announcements when taken as singularity's...announcements should be looked at as pages of a book, telling the story of XYZ...and then there's the bigger narrative of sentiment.

    GRY is an empty book, no content just a nice back cover write up that shows some potential...and when you look inside you see that there's nothing there, its a work in progress.
    I write in differing moods, at differing times. (excuse)
    WHICH BIT DID I GET SERIOUSLY WRONG??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
    ...- the markets just seem way to bearish and volatile at the moment.
    You got that right.


    I used to recommend newbies to dip a toe and to educate themselves simultaneously.
    But in this market I would strongly suggest that dipping the toe can wait.

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