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    Guys thought I would start a thread where we can freely BS on about the trading of various International Markets and how we are seeing markets we are looking at. Pretty much the discussion going on in the S&P thread which is kinda off topic but still interesting.

    Basically a thread to discuss any and all movement outside specific ASX stocks. And how they are travelling. I often have my usual rubbish banter to add most days but haven't anywhere to put it to have a "cohesive narrative".

    Have nothing brilliant to add to kick off except cept its a sea of green out there. Surprised me!
    "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains."

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    I'll be right with you once I re-orient my screen to portrait.

    I'm going to need some phone books to sit on if this continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trembling Hand View Post
    Guys thought I would start a thread where we can freely BS on about the trading of various International Markets and how we are seeing markets we are looking at. Pretty much the discussion going on in the S&P thread which is kinda off topic but still interesting.

    Basically a thread to discuss any and all movement outside specific ASX stocks. And how they are travelling. I often have my usual rubbish banter to add most days but haven't anywhere to put it to have a "cohesive narrative".

    Have nothing brilliant to add to kick off except cept its a sea of green out there. Surprised me!
    Thanks for starting the thread, I felt guilty about off topic too.

    She's running hard that's for sure, best not to stand in the way it seems. I heard Asian CB demand for AUDUSD down at 1.05 was advertised at least since Friday (e.g. http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/0...ecommendation/ and http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/0...s-very-strong/), they definitely look like they were hitting offers pretty hard in that zone today!

    Thankfully, much more 'normal' trading today compared to last week. One loser and a couple of regular wins today, +10 all up, not sure I'm gonna bother with the afternoon session, might try for a couple more slugs around the London Open if it looks good...I'm not game to either try and fade here or wait to try and catch the continuation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    I'll be right with you once I re-orient my screen to portrait.

    I'm going to need some phone books to sit on if this continues.
    LOL. yep ES up 0.4% Z(Ftse) 0.5%, Asia 1-2% just another day hey!

    Things look a little toppy for now (next hour!) probably need some more Euro juice to move higher............... today.
    "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains."

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    Does anyone know where to find the amount of open short interest for AAPL & NASDAQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter View Post
    Does anyone know where to find the amount of open short interest for AAPL & NASDAQ?
    U mean Apple on the nasdaq ? Or open interest on nasdaq?
    Doubt theres any good free sources out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter View Post
    Does anyone know where to find the amount of open short interest for AAPL & NASDAQ?
    APPL
    http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/aapl/short-interest
    NAS,
    http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/qqq/short-interest
    and
    http://www.cmegroup.com/market-data/...ty-volume.html
    "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains."

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyQuake View Post
    U mean Apple on the nasdaq ? Or open interest on nasdaq?
    Doubt theres any good free sources out there
    Both Apple as a stock and NASDAQ as an index.

    Cheers. Is there a way to get that data dating even further back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trembling Hand View Post
    Guys thought I would start a thread where we can freely BS on about the trading of various International Markets and how we are seeing markets we are looking at. Pretty much the discussion going on in the S&P thread which is kinda off topic but still interesting.

    Basically a thread to discuss any and all movement outside specific ASX stocks. And how they are travelling. I often have my usual rubbish banter to add most days but haven't anywhere to put it to have a "cohesive narrative".

    Have nothing brilliant to add to kick off except cept its a sea of green out there. Surprised me!
    Whats happened to your blog?
    Are you looking at bot trading or are you
    going to simply out perform them manually?
    Have you any interest in developing Algos for
    this sort of trading?

    Personally I feel that unless you have an institutional pocket size
    Joe average could be badly un stuck.

    I can see neuro bots popping up.
    (Adapting to other bots algos for profit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter View Post
    Cheers. Is there a way to get that data dating even further back?
    Open interest for the index is everywhere. Like here,
    http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=NQ

    For APPL no idea. You'll have to have a hunt around. Sure its out there somewhere. Not that its much use in any case. Index OI waxes and wanes and most of its not directional trades. And then of course for every short there is a long so I wonder what your looking for?
    "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trembling Hand View Post
    For APPL no idea. You'll have to have a hunt around. Sure its out there somewhere. Not that its much use in any case. Index OI waxes and wanes and most of its not directional trades. And then of course for every short there is a long so I wonder what your looking for?
    Trend I guess, to see when the trend of shorts will rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    Whats happened to your blog?
    No time for it at the mo. May get back into one day but have bigger fish to flip than trying to post smart stuff for no one in particular.

    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    Are you looking at bot trading or are you going to simply out perform them manually?
    Have you any interest in developing Algos for this sort of trading?
    Not really. My head hurts enough as it is. And its hardly like my current methods are broken nor have I reached the limit of my current approach...... So do and do again.

    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    Personally I feel that unless you have an institutional pocket size Joe average could be badly un stuck.
    Trading an algo? or futs trading in general?
    "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter View Post
    Trend I guess, to see when the trend of shorts will rise.
    Actually short interest normally rise as a company approaches bankruptcies. That is once they have been in a long down trend.
    "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    Have you any interest in developing Algos for
    this sort of trading?

    Personally I feel that unless you have an institutional pocket size
    Joe average could be badly un stuck.

    I can see neuro bots popping up.
    (Adapting to other bots algos for profit).
    TT are developing a platform for traders that have no coding experience to create algos, called ADL I think(I think it's in beta stages now). Looks really interesting, it's all visual based, don't need to code(although I'm sure you can as well) and it seems pretty intense too as in you can do quite a lot. It might make things interesting, I know a lot of guys are pretty excited about it, so there could be a algo-mad period where guys that don't really have much idea are creating these crazy algos that might not work, could get some weird things going on......maybe


    EDIT: Haha getting off topic straight away, my bad. *ahem* Asia up between 1-2%. There we go.
    Last edited by ThingyMajiggy; 13th-March-2012 at 03:28 PM. Reason: off topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trembling Hand View Post
    No time for it at the mo. May get back into one day but have bigger fish to flip than trying to post smart stuff for no one in particular.
    See your point. I dont and wouldnt without some reason for doing so,$s would be an influence.

    Not really. My head hurts enough as it is. And its hardly like my current methods are broken nor have I reached the limit of my current approach...... So do and do again.

    Trading an algo? or futs trading in general?
    Id say the In general guys would be at risk more so than those capable of testing and implementing an Algo bot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThingyMajiggy View Post
    TT are developing a platform for traders that have no coding experience to create algos, called ADL I think(I think it's in beta stages now). Looks really interesting, it's all visual based, don't need to code(although I'm sure you can as well) and it seems pretty intense too as in you can do quite a lot. It might make things interesting, I know a lot of guys are pretty excited about it, so there could be a algo-mad period where guys that don't really have much idea are creating these crazy algos that might not work, could get some weird things going on......maybe
    Creating is one side of the Cube.
    There are 7 others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThingyMajiggy View Post
    TT are developing a platform for traders that have no coding experience to create algos, called ADL I think(I think it's in beta stages now). Looks really interesting, it's all visual based, don't need to code(although I'm sure you can as well) and it seems pretty intense too as in you can do quite a lot.
    Quote Originally Posted by tech/a View Post
    Creating is one side of the Cube.
    There are 7 others.
    And only takes 50 hours to be an expert.

    https://adlsupport.tradingtechnologi.../HowToLearnADL

    ha!!
    "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains."

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    Apple shorts:
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    imo it really doesnt tell you much. After paying $$$ for accurate data: short interest, %lending available, %of lending used, etc, it didn't seem like there was any edge.

    Its a very tricky area. Even with paid data :P
    I believe effort to be a finite resource. Something to be used only when there are no other options available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trembling Hand View Post
    And only takes 50 hours to be an expert.

    https://adlsupport.tradingtechnologi.../HowToLearnADL

    ha!!
    Haha exactly. Will be interesting to see what comes out of it, especially with our local stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trembling Hand View Post
    No time for it at the mo. May get back into one day but have bigger fish to flip than trying to post smart stuff for no one in particular.
    Was/still is a great source TH.
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