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    Hi Guys,

    I need input from the people who has experience in investing in the US/Florida State property market or foreclose properties (Townhouse) from Australia.

    I would appreciate if you could provide some insight or your thoughts on it.

    - Did you find the process of buying foreclose properties in the US difficult/complex?
    - What paper work is involved?
    - What are the associated paper work costs? Stamp duty, taxes, insurance, etc?
    - Did you seek help from any local agents? If yes, could please tell which ones?
    - Did you appointment a Buyer’s agent or did you contact the seller’s agent directly?
    - Did the agents provide any help/assistance with paper work to an international buyer?
    - Time lapsed between the first contact with the seller’s agent to getting the keys in your hands?
    - How did you manage the payment for the property from overseas – did you need to involve the ATO/IRS? Wire transfer?
    - Was communication over the phone/emails sufficient or did you have documents courier back and forth or even personally visit to close the deal? I understand visiting the property for inspection but once you have decided on the property was any more visits needed?
    - Assuming you had purchased the property as an investment, did you involve agent for managing tenants?
    - Anything else that you think I should know of?
    - I am assuming that paying for the property in all cash will be far more easier then getting a mortgage with a US Bank but am I even eligible for US mortgage as a Australian resident?

    A bit of a background on my current situation – I am an Australian citizen. I have previously visited US on the visa waiver program. I have a bank account with an American bank. I have also applied for ITIN with the IRS.


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    Default Re: Buying foreclose property in the US/Florida state from Australia as an Investment

    The number of yanks trying to get out of the place is increasing, over seas bank now have to comply with IRS laws or are banned from dealing with USA customers, house prices are still going down so plenty to chose from, banks in USA are now caught up in Robo signing credit cards so another fight looming, counties are still going broke so they will increase tax's to on any one who can't escape, food stamps usage is up 270% so if you want your rent paid in food should be ok.

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    Default Re: Buying foreclose property in the US/Florida state from Australia as an Investment

    February 1st, 2012
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    The latest Case-Shiller numbers released yesterday showed that the US residential housing market is still very weak. After three straight months of declines, home prices are now at 2003 levels. Duh.

    To some, it was a shocking revelation. The pundits I saw discussing it yesterday practically had a seizure they were in such disbelief. CNBC even ran an article on their website in response, extolling the strong fundamentals of US housing.

    Let’s look at those fundamentals:

    1) Most people cannot afford to write a check for $200,000 or more (roughly the median home price), which means they’ll require bank financing. Consequently, speculators and investors aside, home prices must be a function of income– do buyers make enough money to be able to afford the monthly mortgage payment?

    2) Mortgage affordability is tied directly to income levels, and where there’s no job, there’s no income. When you aggregate that notion across an entire economy with high unemployment, it restrains housing affordability.

    3) Millions of people have been taken out of the housing market as potential end-user owners. These are the ‘former’ homeowners who have lost their jobs and/or been foreclosed on. They can no longer qualify for a mortgage, particularly at the ultra-low rates we’re seeing now.

    4) There’s a lot of talk about how low interest rates are making homes affordable. Maybe so, at least to the people who qualify for a mortgage. And while it’s possible that interest rates could go lower, there’s a lot of potential for rates to rise. And when rates rise, homes become more UNaffordable.

    Example: if you can afford $1,500 per month to spend on a home, you would be able to afford a $300,000 home at today’s low rates. If rates go up to 6%, $1,500 per month only buys you a $250,000 home. If that’s what the average guy can afford, that’s where home prices will converge.

    5) Many local governments are completely bankrupt; we’ve read about looming municipal defaults and laying off cops and fire fighters. Property taxes will likely rise as a result, adding an additional cost in buyers’ monthly payments.

    Again, if a buyer can only afford $1,500/month, and his property tax rises by $600/year, that takes about $10,000 off the price of the home s/he would be able to afford.

    6) Ditto for homeowners’ insurance rates, which are rising rapidly.

    7) There are currently 15 million vacant homes in the US according to the latest census figures, and every day, more people are being foreclosed and getting kicked out of their homes. Housing prices can’t have any meaningful rise as long as there’s such excess supply in the market.

    8) In bad economies, people double up in homes. Roomates. Live-in relatives. The number of households is contracting, and this is a demographic issue– too many homes, not enough families to fill them.

    9) Even if every unemployed American were simply given a home to live in, it would still leave millions of vacant homes on the market.

    10) Given how US Homeland Security treats everyone like a criminal terrorist, foreigners aren’t exactly lining up to tighten the slack.

    Ultimately, while there are bright spots in any market, the fundamentals for US housing remain poor.

    It can be tempting to jump into the market as an investor with prices so low. But gobbling up a low-grade track house simply because it’s cheap is not a sound investment strategy. There are a lot of things in this world that are cheap. That doesn’t mean the price will go up. It just means that they’re cheap.

    A great investment is one that is both cheap, -and- has a catalyst for growth. Median housing in the US has few, if any, catalysts to growth. If you want to invest, stick to the highest quality assets you can find– premium homes in the best locations. They’ll be the first to recover.

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