I post this only in protest at the mangling of English by recent posters. The English language has many nuances if used PROPERLY.
There are many poorly composed posts appearing on ASF by people, possibly migrating from Hotcopper and other forums to ASF.
These comparatively uneducated and partially literate remnants of stock forums in decline, such as Hotcopper, should be sent packing, back to where they belong.
Which takes me to the name of this thread , named in honour of
If all business cows in China are holy?
which for gawds sake, has had forty five replies to its meaningless title.