Welcome to Aussie Stock Forums Members
 
Go Back   Aussie Stock Forums > Other Forums > General Investment and Economics
   
 

Reply
 
Thread Tools

Aussie Stock Forums Warning
Old 13th-February-2009, 02:13 PM   #1
Fab
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,279
Default Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

I have a friend who fixed 75% of his $500 000 mortage 1 year ago at 7.83%.He fixed it for 5 years with one of the big 4 banks. Now he is about to lose his job , the investment property he bought recently has lost over 25% of his value and the bank is asking him 34k to get out of the fixed part of his loan.
Is there something he could do to get out of this bad situation ?

Cheers
Fab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 02:18 PM   #2
prawn_86
Mod: Call me Dendrobranchiata
 
prawn_86's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney...
Posts: 3,778
Blog Entries: 37
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

Sell up everything and buy or rent what he can afford without debt...
prawn_86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 02:21 PM   #3
investorpaul
I Live And Breath On Trading
 
investorpaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 409
Blog Entries: 7
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fab View Post
I have a friend who fixed 75% of his $500 000 mortage 1 year ago at 7.83%.He fixed it for 5 years with one of the big 4 banks. Now he is about to lose his job , the investment property he bought recently has lost over 25% of his value and the bank is asking him 34k to get out of the fixed part of his loan.
Is there something he could do to get out of this bad situation ?

Cheers
His best bet would be to approach the bank and say: "you and I both know the value of the property has plummeted, I understand I am on a fixed rate, but due to economic hardships I am struggling to afford the loan. If it continues you maybe forced to foreclose on me. Obviously that is not the ideal situation for you either because given the depressed housing market you will not recover the entire amount of the loan, If we can however work out a payment plan, that involves a reduction in the level of interest rates I should be able to continue paying the loan"

The benefit to the bank is:
1. They dont lose money by selling the house in a depressed market.
2. They maintain their income from having a loan on the property.
3. They dont have to wait until he has missed 3 payments before they try and force him out.
4. They avoid selling, advertising and other fees

Your mate will hopefully be able to afford the loan at the lower rate, but if not at least he can sell it himself which should help achieve a better price.
__________________
World Cup 2010 Here We Come!!!
investorpaul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 03:45 PM   #4
Glen48
 
Glen48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Philippines
Posts: 1,069
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

If he sells everything he gets out of the loan or do the Banks want the extra as well?
Glen48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 06:20 PM   #5
knocker
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 486
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

Sounds like your mate is in for some problems. If he is out of work i think it is possible to access your super annuantion. He can get forms from centrelink
knocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 07:38 PM   #6
robots
hello
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: St Kilda
Posts: 2,643
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen48 View Post
If he sells everything he gets out of the loan or do the Banks want the extra as well?
hello,

banks want extra to break the FIXED term contract, and fair enough you have to read the fine print

thankyou
robots
__________________
R.I.P kimosabi, mr burns, medicowallet, numbercruncher, pepperoni, singlefished, Tom R, chops a must, dowdy, KNOCKER, oh well
robots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 07:39 PM   #7
Rainmaker2000
 
Rainmaker2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 376
Smile Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

I sure doubt he can access super to pay a home loan............this is a terrible story but unfortunately just the beginning for many aussies as the devaluation of the stock market (over 50% now from top) flows through to the relative devaluation of people's labour and then personal assets like housing which is mainly a function of wages................

Here is one strategy that helps in some of these cases........depending on the conditions of the loan, many fixed rate loans allow additional repayments (sometimes for fee) and the only condition of the fixed loan is that you retain a fixed loan (which could be 2$)

So thus, your friend in this instance could arrange a temporary second mortgage at a lower rate to make additional repayments on the first one.......it's not lovely but can work as long as he didn't get a straight jacket mortgage in the first place.....

Your friend really needs to learn from this about investments, fundamentals and interest rate cycles.......those heavily into the stock market have learnt a lot in the last year......the key is we are still alive and still mixing it up.......your friend made some big mistakes here...........
__________________
Big Stocks Don't make Big Stock Moves---Lynch
Rainmaker2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 09:38 PM   #8
nunthewiser
 
nunthewiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,249
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

OFF TOPIC . apologies.........

dear rainmaker are you the same rainmaker/rainman? from commsec many years ago m8 ?
nunthewiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 09:55 PM   #9
drsmith
 
drsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,618
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fab View Post
I have a friend who fixed 75% of his $500 000 mortage 1 year ago at 7.83%.He fixed it for 5 years with one of the big 4 banks. Now he is about to lose his job , the investment property he bought recently has lost over 25% of his value and the bank is asking him 34k to get out of the fixed part of his loan.
Is there something he could do to get out of this bad situation ?

Cheers
The bank may well have financed the loan on similar terms before adding it's own margin so the $34k may largely reflect the bank's own break costs. It's the same as the value of a longer term bond. When interest rates fall the capital value of the bond rises.

Without the prospect of an income stream to service the debt the only option is to sell as Prawn has suggested.
drsmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 10:45 PM   #10
Rainmaker2000
 
Rainmaker2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 376
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

hehe, not the same dude.....how I would love to have been heavily in the stocks right through the tech. reck.........would have learnt a lot.......and I doubt I would have made the mistakes many made..........I would have picked one of my favourites, Fantastic furniture on a float for 40 cents as well......
__________________
Big Stocks Don't make Big Stock Moves---Lynch
Rainmaker2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th-February-2009, 11:39 PM   #11
Glen48
 
Glen48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Philippines
Posts: 1,069
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

I say sell and buy back after the crash.
Glen48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th-February-2009, 12:25 AM   #12
BigAl
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 13
Default Re: Getting out of a fixed rate home loan

Breaking a Fixed Rate Loan....

Let me put it to you another away.

What if rates skyrocketed up? And the bank approached you and said, "We miscalculated... we're in hard times... profits are down... we respectfully request the fixed term be broken".

What would be your response to this?

"A contract is a contract... up yours... you don't have a leg to stand on... suck it up".

So in the reverse, whats the banks response going to be?


Your mate gambled, and lost. If rates had gone the other way, he'd be laughing and the rest of us would be sucking humble pie. That's life.


And in no way shape or form do I work or know anyone in the finance industry.
BigAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Don't forget you can rate threads! Joe Blow Announcements and Site News 3 30th-October-2009 07:53 PM
Fixed Ratio Trading johenmo Trading Strategies/Systems 1 3rd-February-2009 02:07 PM
Upcoming interest rate rises not a done deal? markrmau General Investment and Economics 40 1st-July-2005 10:31 AM
$10 Transaction fee on commsec margin loan markrmau Brokers 1 1st-March-2005 08:25 AM


All times are GMT +10. The time now is 01:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2010, Aussie Networks Pty. Ltd.
Code of Conduct   ASF Posting Guidelines   Terms of Use

None of the content posted on this website should be considered financial advice. Click here for more information.
Opinions expressed are those of the respective authors and do not represent the views of Aussie Stock Forums management.

 
An exclusive design by: Forumskin.com