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Jay-684
2nd-February-2005, 11:20 PM
I know this is an extremely open ended question, and it will depend on each individuals risk and investing strategy, but what sort of a return could I expect for 2005? This is based on approximately 50:50 split between blue chip shares and more speculative stocks.

money tree
3rd-February-2005, 12:59 AM
-20%

Fleeta
3rd-February-2005, 08:21 AM
Optimistic as always, Money Tree. I'd say that if you pick well, you could go up 20%. More likely that you will be closer to zero though. I'd be more than happy with 10% this year.

Jay-684
3rd-February-2005, 09:43 AM
hmmmm... I was hoping for 15% this year, last month was 5% so hopefully once the bull ends I'll be about right (fingers crossed)

money tree
3rd-February-2005, 09:55 AM
my apologies

I should just be a mindless bull like everyone else right?

we ran from 2700 to 4150. how silly of me to expect some sort of pullback. I should know better. The market will rise forever.

Porper
3rd-February-2005, 07:46 PM
my apologies

I should just be a mindless bull like everyone else right?

we ran from 2700 to 4150. how silly of me to expect some sort of pullback. I should know better. The market will rise forever.


A bit quick with the sarcasm aren't we, there was nothing wrong with Fleetas post and you have a dummy spit.

There is nothing wrong with you saying -20%, but don't get agitated just because most people disagree with you.

I think it will go up 100 % this year.:iamwithst

Wishful thinking but hopefully it will be up rather than down.

money tree
4th-February-2005, 12:27 AM
you may be right porper

apologies fleeta, sarcasm not deserved

my experience with being a bear is that you get treated like a pessimist or a criminal. Its like you must have mental problems if you dont want the market to go up.

The market moves in 2 directions. 99% of the population try to make money in one direction.

Im optimistic about the market going down in 05.

wayneL
4th-February-2005, 01:23 AM
you may be right porper

apologies fleeta, sarcasm not deserved

my experience with being a bear is that you get treated like a pessimist or a criminal. Its like you must have mental problems if you dont want the market to go up.

The market moves in 2 directions. 99% of the population try to make money in one direction.

Im optimistic about the market going down in 05.

LOL

I remember, in late 2003 stating that the property market was close to topping, and that it would plateau or even go down.

You'd think I had blasphemed in front of the pope. I was in serious danger of being strung up by a mob ROFL

Porper
4th-February-2005, 05:21 AM
The market moves in 2 directions. 99% of the population try to make money in one direction.

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I think you are absolutely correct in your statement above.

The trouble is most people only know how to try and make money while the market is going up.When this bull run ends I realise that I need a plan b, which I don't have at the moment.

I am fairly new to investing/trading but I presume you trade put options, just wondered if yourself or anybody else new of any good beginners books about options and the like.:)

RodC
4th-February-2005, 07:21 AM
LOL

I remember, in late 2003 stating that the property market was close to topping, and that it would plateau or even go down.

You'd think I had blasphemed in front of the pope. I was in serious danger of being strung up by a mob ROFL

Yes, but you probably said that on PI.com

What reaction did you expect? :)

Rod.

wayneL
4th-February-2005, 08:44 AM
Yes, but you probably said that on PI.com

What reaction did you expect? :)

Rod.

hahaha yes. But even now, in my circle of friends, I daren't utter such profanity for fear of being severely beaten up!