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ceasar73
21st-September-2008, 10:22 PM
What Causes Stocks to Rise???:confused:

I have a feeling the TA's will say 'Who care's!'

thanks

ceasar73.:)

nunthewiser
21st-September-2008, 10:24 PM
:D..........buyers

prawn_86
21st-September-2008, 10:25 PM
When people are buying more than what others are selling.

Simple micro-economics really.

Vice versa, for stocks falling (dont believe all the short selling beat ups)

ceasar73
21st-September-2008, 10:28 PM
Why do buyers buy stock XYZ?

what makes a stock attractive? Is it EPS?

what is it for you?

ceasar

Whiskers
21st-September-2008, 10:31 PM
What Causes Stocks to Rise???:confused:

I have a feeling the TA's will say 'Who care's!'

thanks

ceasar73.:)


:D..........buyers

Nah... short sellers! :silly:

Holy smoke... hit and run... I'm outa here. :hide:

sam76
21st-September-2008, 10:32 PM
Why do buyers buy stock XYZ?

what makes a stock attractive? Is it EPS?

what is it for you?

ceasar

basically, it's sexiness.

Is the stock presenting itself in a way that it wants to be bought?

freddy2
21st-September-2008, 10:41 PM
Price - determined by simple supply and demand
Value - determined by future earnings

Short term price will be the main factor to cause a stock to rise, over the long term it will be value that is the main factor.

ceasar73
21st-September-2008, 10:45 PM
Yes , in the long run I believe it comes down to value - determined by future earnings.

ceasar73.

tech/a
22nd-September-2008, 07:04 AM
Technically

DEMAND

On the chart often it (demand) jumps out and screams buy me.
Silence is just as easy to pick.
As is confusion.
Plain lack of demand.
Uphoria,Fear,and greed.

P/E's/Directors visions/Future earnings,arent evident as is often the case Fundamentally.

CAB SAV
22nd-September-2008, 08:13 AM
Sheep. One starts off & the others follow. When they have eaten most of the feed, one starts off for another paddock & the others follow.

nunthewiser
22nd-September-2008, 08:15 AM
:D..........buyers

um it all comes back to my post :)

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 09:19 AM
um it all comes back to my post :)

So you buy a stock just b/c others are buying it?:confused:

wayneL
22nd-September-2008, 09:20 AM
um it all comes back to my post :)

Nah, it's the same criminals that made oil go up. It's all manipulation.

Seneca60BC
22nd-September-2008, 09:27 AM
I think basically future EPS - which equates to value.

nunthewiser
22nd-September-2008, 09:29 AM
Nah, it's the same criminals that made oil go up. It's all manipulation.

LOL....INFIDELS!

nunthewiser
22nd-September-2008, 09:31 AM
So you buy a stock just b/c others are buying it?:confused:

um no.... read the title of the thread you created , i have answered the question , my reasons for buying vary from TA to FA BUT the reason a stock rises is because someone is buying them , i hope this clears this up for you
have a great day

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 09:33 AM
Technically

DEMAND

On the chart often it (demand) jumps out and screams buy me.
Silence is just as easy to pick.
As is confusion.
Plain lack of demand.
Uphoria,Fear,and greed.

P/E's/Directors visions/Future earnings,arent evident as is often the case Fundamentally.

I agree tech....but

Buffett/Munger “It’s not greed that drives the
world, but envy.”

think about it, its true.:2twocents

thanks

ceasar73

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 09:35 AM
um no.... read the title of the thread you created , i have answered the question , my reasons for buying vary from TA to FA BUT the reason a stock rises is because someone is buying them , i hope this clears this up for you
have a great day

Yep - bad title, your right...:o

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 09:37 AM
I think basically future EPS - which equates to value.

yep!

wayneL
22nd-September-2008, 10:02 AM
Value?

Perceived value yes. Actual value - not always.

(eg tech boom, tulip bulbs etc)

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 10:08 AM
Value?

Perceived value yes. Actual value - not always.

(eg tech boom, tulip bulbs etc)


Doesn't Perceived value = price and
value = Actual value? :confused:

cheers,

ceasar73

wayneL
22nd-September-2008, 10:14 AM
Doesn't Perceived value = price and
value = Actual value? :confused:

cheers,

ceasar73

Yes, but there is mass confusion between the two concepts.

Consider these two maxims:

The value of something is what someone is prepared to pay for it - folk saying

Price is what you pay, value is what you get - W Buffett

Some people paid $20 for Lehmans recently, but the value was 0

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 10:22 AM
"Yes, but there is mass confusion between the two concepts." true.

wayneL - why do you buy shares in company XYZ?

thanks

ceasar73

wayneL
22nd-September-2008, 10:28 AM
"Yes, but there is mass confusion between the two concepts." true.

wayneL - why do you buy shares in company XYZ?

thanks

ceasar73
To cover my short :D:D:D

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 10:31 AM
:p::p::p:

kam75
22nd-September-2008, 03:35 PM
:D..........buyers

A stock will rise in price when the buyers (or bulls) become more aggressive and willing to pay higher prices.

regards

It's Snake Pliskin
22nd-September-2008, 04:14 PM
A stock will rise in price when the buyers (or bulls) become more aggressive and willing to pay higher prices.

regards

According to the apes it is only when shorters are banned.

ceasar73
22nd-September-2008, 04:34 PM
A stock will rise in price when the buyers (or bulls) become more aggressive and willing to pay higher prices.

regards

Yeah but what makes a buyer want to buy??

what makes a stock attractive to buyers?

Its it all about EPS in the long run?

I really gave this thread a bad title:o

nunthewiser
22nd-September-2008, 05:28 PM
Yeah but what makes a buyer want to buy??

what makes a stock attractive to buyers?

Its it all about EPS in the long run?

I really gave this thread a bad title:o

LOL yep.....:D.personally use many different factors for stock entry . EPS yeah for investments but thats only part of it . entry depends on buyers too also TA , vols , allsorts . also buy for other reasons , take EXT for example , many moons ago when uranium was the best thing since elvis i noticed a lil tinpot next door to rossing and bought just on a nearology factor ... no eps , no cash :) no nuffing except the fact they were a likely target in the future ..... look whos buying chunks now ......i bought MGX many moons ago based on the fact i could see there stockpile shed from my front porch , was running at a loss but i could see them building at a rate of knots , when i bought tho it was illiquid , unloved and iron ore wasnt bigger than elvis ..... lol im currently holding a few BDM .. hahahah i say . no cash no earnings no nuffing except a smart bunch behind them and moving quietly in the backround doing there thing without a thought for market movement and silly things like that :) . i bought because i could see a future IF they cvould find a doorway . silly .maybe . but hey each to there own on there choices .. dont know if my ramblings cleared anything up but hey i had to post somthing

tech/a
22nd-September-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeah but what makes a buyer want to buy??

what makes a stock attractive to buyers?

:o

How about percieved OPPORTUNITY.

I guess when I buy a stock or a property thats what Ive dome the numbers on---and I feel there is an opportunity to profit.

I'm sure Buffet would say the same of his investment in Hathaway.

agro
22nd-September-2008, 06:40 PM
short coverings